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  1. #1

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    Why so many re-rips?

    I started using dBpowerAMP a few months ago and was hoping somone could help me with a small problem I'm having. It's not uncommon for me to rip a disc that's scratch free, but power amp has trouble reading it. This could be a new disc or an older pressing. For example, I'm ripping a track right now which is less than 5 minutes long. It's doing a re-rip of over 17,000 frames. If I put this disc in EAC, it rips without any problems. This problem does not happen on every disc and many times if I stop the rip and start again, power amp will rip the track perfectly the second time around. My IDE controller is set to DMA mode. I just checked in Device Manager on both drives. Any tips would be appreciated!! Just upgraded to the Reference Version yesterday.


    dBpoweramp Release 12.4 Digital Audio Extraction Log from Tuesday, January 15, 2008 3:11 PM

    Drive & Settings
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    Ripping with drive 'D: [_NEC - DVD_RW ND-3550A ]', Drive offset: 48, Overread Lead-in/out: No
    AccurateRip: Active, Using C2: Yes, Cache: None, FUA Cache Invalidate: No
    Pass 1 Drive Speed: Max, Pass 2 Drive Speed: Max
    Ultra:: Vary Drive Speed: Yes, Min Passes: 2, Max Passes: 6, Finish After Clean Passes: 2
    Bad Sector Re-rip:: Drive Speed: Max, Maximum Re-reads: 700

    Encoder: [Multi Encoder] -enc1="FLAC=-compression-level-8" -encMopt1=" -tofolder={mqt}C:\Users\Music{mqt}" -enc2="mp3 (Lame)=-V 0" -encMopt2=" -tofolder={mqt}C:\Users\Music{mqt}" -nomulti

    Extraction Log
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    Track 1: Ripped LBA 0 to 18180 (4:02) in 0:14. Filename: C:\Users\Music\King Crimson - Starless And Bible Black (1974) [[Multi Encoder]]\01 - The Great Deceiver.IGNORE
    AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 1) [Pass 1]
    CRC32: 9589E4BD

    Track 3: Ripped LBA 36637 to 53257 (3:41) in 0:11. Filename: C:\Users\Music\King Crimson - Starless And Bible Black (1974) [[Multi Encoder]]\03 - We'll Let You Know.IGNORE
    AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 1) [Pass 1]
    CRC32: 1F138026

    Track 5: Ripped LBA 74300 to 99950 (5:42) in 0:14. Filename: C:\Users\Music\King Crimson - Starless And Bible Black (1974) [[Multi Encoder]]\05 - Trio.IGNORE
    AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 1) [Pass 1]
    CRC32: 14057F37

    Track 6: Ripped LBA 99950 to 118692 (4:09) in 0:12. Filename: C:\Users\Music\King Crimson - Starless And Bible Black (1974) [[Multi Encoder]]\06 - The Mincer.IGNORE
    AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 1) [Pass 1]
    CRC32: ECCD96D5

    Track 7: Ripped LBA 118692 to 160112 (9:12) in 0:23. Filename: C:\Users\Music\King Crimson - Starless And Bible Black (1974) [[Multi Encoder]]\07 - Starless And Bible Black.IGNORE
    AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 1) [Pass 1]
    CRC32: CCC69894

    Track 8: Ripped LBA 160112 to 210697 (11:14) in 0:25. Filename: C:\Users\Music\King Crimson - Starless And Bible Black (1974) [[Multi Encoder]]\08 - Fracture.IGNORE
    AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 1) [Pass 1]
    CRC32: 6026A049

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    8 Tracks Ripped: 6 Accurate, 0 Could Not Be Ripped


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    dBpoweramp Release 12.4 Digital Audio Extraction Log from Tuesday, January 15, 2008 3:41 PM

    Drive & Settings
    ----------------

    Ripping with drive 'D: [_NEC - DVD_RW ND-3550A ]', Drive offset: 48, Overread Lead-in/out: No
    AccurateRip: Active, Using C2: Yes, Cache: None, FUA Cache Invalidate: No
    Pass 1 Drive Speed: Max, Pass 2 Drive Speed: Max
    Ultra:: Vary Drive Speed: Yes, Min Passes: 2, Max Passes: 6, Finish After Clean Passes: 2
    Bad Sector Re-rip:: Drive Speed: Max, Maximum Re-reads: 700

    Encoder: [Multi Encoder] -enc1="FLAC=-compression-level-8" -encMopt1=" -tofolder={mqt}C:\Users\Music{mqt}" -enc2="mp3 (Lame)=-V 0" -encMopt2=" -tofolder={mqt}C:\Users\Music{mqt}" -nomulti

    Extraction Log
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    Track 2: Ripped LBA 18180 to 36637 (4:06) in 0:13. Filename: C:\Users\Music\King Crimson - Starless And Bible Black (1974) [[Multi Encoder]]\02 - Lament.IGNORE
    AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 1) [Pass 1]
    CRC32: 0C2AE458

    Track 4: Ripped LBA 53257 to 74300 (4:40) in 0:12. Filename: C:\Users\Music\King Crimson - Starless And Bible Black (1974) [[Multi Encoder]]\04 - The Night Watch.IGNORE
    AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 1) [Pass 1]
    CRC32: ABEE416A

    --------------

    2 Tracks Ripped Accurately

  2. #2
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    Re: Why so many re-rips?

    A stab in the dark:

    Is it possible the drive is overheating? Does the problem occur only after a few discs are used back to back? Does the case have good cooling?

    -brendan

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    Re: Why so many re-rips?

    Brendan: Thanks for the response. I couldn't say for certain if the drive is overheating, though I don't think that's the issue. The problem appears to be completely random. After my post, I went back and ripped the disc again, this time without any problems. Later on, I ripped the disc once again. This time, I had the same problem. Poweramp wanted to re-rip over 17,000 frames on a track that earlier, ripped without any problems. After 10 minutes or so, I clicked on "skip track" and the rest of the disc ripped fine. Then I went back and re-ripped that bad track. Except once again, this time it ripped without any trouble at all. I want to mention that this is not unique to this cd I'm posting here. It can happen at any time with any of the cds in my collection. I also want to point out that they are original silver cds, not cdr copies.


    Note how the first time, this track ripped without any problems.

    Track 6: Ripped LBA 99950 to 118692 (4:09) in 0:12. Filename: C:\Users\Music\King Crimson - Starless And Bible Black (1974) [[Multi Encoder]]\06 - The Mincer.IGNORE
    AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 1) [Pass 1]
    CRC32: ECCD96D5

    Later on, this same track will not rip properly. If I skip the track and then go right back to it, it will rip without any problems.


    Track 6: Ripped LBA 99950 to 118692 (4:09) in 1:07:38. Filename: C:\Users\Music\King Crimson - Starless And Bible Black (1974) [[Multi Encoder]]\06 - The Mincer.IGNORE
    AccurateRip: Inaccurate (confidence 1) Secure (Warning) [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 3, Re-Rip 17829 Frames]
    CRC32: 02B1AF76


    I use EAC (in secure mode) and Nero all of the time and neither have caused any problems. Thanks everyone for taking a look at this. I appreciate the help!!
    Last edited by hatfield; 01-15-2008 at 11:26 PM. Reason: added text

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    Re: Why so many re-rips?

    17000 frames, that is the whole track. Your CD drive is malfunctioning (ie on the 2nd pass it is getting a new offset).

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    Re: Why so many re-rips?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spoon View Post
    17000 frames, that is the whole track. Your CD drive is malfunctioning (ie on the 2nd pass it is getting a new offset).
    The daefeatures database shows that the drive has accuratestream...so...firmware bug? Perhaps trying a newer/different firmware version might help?

    -brendan

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    Re: Why so many re-rips?

    Thanks for the help everyone. I've made a few changes to see if this helps. I turned off "vary speed drive" and "C2". I'll check the results tonight. Thanks again for the help!

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