Tagging - STYLES within CLASSICAL GENRE (help?)
Hi folks,
I will be posting some questions here this week relating to the STYLES of classical music I have tagged since purchasing 'dBpa' last July. Hopefully I might attract some assistance from some more 'experienced' classical [I]buffs[/I]!
Thanks a lot,
Paul
Re: Tagging - STYLES within CLASSICAL GENRE (help?)
I'm no expert, but Classical music is organised into periods and I often see variations in respect to these periods.
You might want to start by reading something like this: [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_music"]Classical music[/URL]
or this: [URL="https://www.mfiles.co.uk/classical-periods.htm"]Classical Music Periods[/URL]
Re: Tagging - STYLES within CLASSICAL GENRE (help?)
[QUOTE=mville;185715]I'm no expert, but Classical music is organised into periods and I often see variations in respect to these periods.
You might want to start by reading something like this: [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_music"]Classical music[/URL]
or this: [URL="https://www.mfiles.co.uk/classical-periods.htm"]Classical Music Periods[/URL][/QUOTE]
Thanks Mville,
I will take a look ...
Paul
EDIT: As I thought might be the case - and is the very reason for me opening a new thread - is that some of the STYLES I have created are not actually listed as being 'periods/eras', simply because they are not, [I]strictly [/I]speaking. For instance, 'Minimalism' (eg. Steve Reich) is a term for a particular form of composition/process, but it is not a [I]recognized[/I] as being a 'period' (I mean, we do not [I]verbally[/I] say: "this is a piece of music from the 'Minimalist' period!").
Re: Tagging - STYLES within CLASSICAL GENRE (help?)
Mville,
I did originally plan to use PERIOD tags - as you correct suggest - last year when I first began [I]ripping[/I]; albeit exclusively for CLASSICALs. However, because I used STYLE tags for every other type of music/CD and, of course, PERIOD is not really applicable to: country/Xmas/popular/etc, I decided to do away with it in favour of STYLE (right across the board).
In addition to this, I did not want to have 2/3 of my CD collection having GENRE/STYLE tags, and the remaining 1/3 having GENRE/PERIOD. Also, I had/have no idea if all playback-devices support PERIOD?, as they DO the STYLE tag.
Cheers.
Re: Tagging - STYLES within CLASSICAL GENRE (help?)
Hi,
To get the [I]ball rolling,[/I] here is a list of the STYLES (which I view as being SUB-GENRES) of my CLASSICALs:
[INDENT]Avant-Garde
Baroque
Brazillian
English Chamber
Experimental
First Viennese
Free
Hungarian Folk
Impressionism
Indeterminacy
Intuitive
Minimalism
Modernism
Neoromantic
Neoromantic
Post-Modernism
Process
Religious
Romantic
Russian Orthodoxy
Second Viennese School
Serial
20th Century[/INDENT]
All of these come under either the GENRE of: CHORAL or CLASSICAL. The reason I have created this thread is to seek some help, please, in making sure I have placed the correct COMPOSERS within the correct STYLE; and to see if I can [I]whittle down[/I] the amount of STYLES I currently have (I am sure there are 2 or 3 which can be moved/substituted).
Thanks.
Re: Tagging - STYLES within CLASSICAL GENRE (help?)
[QUOTE=monsterjazzlick;185723]Mville,
I did originally plan to use PERIOD tags - as you correct suggest - last year when I first began [I]ripping[/I]; albeit exclusively for CLASSICALs. However, because I used STYLE tags for every other type of music/CD and, of course, PERIOD is not really applicable to: country/Xmas/popular/etc, I decided to do away with it in favour of STYLE (right across the board).
In addition to this, I did not want to have 2/3 of my CD collection having GENRE/STYLE tags, and the remaining 1/3 having GENRE/PERIOD. Also, I had/have no idea if all playback-devices support PERIOD?, as they DO the STYLE tag.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]
Does your Sony display Style / Period?
Re: Tagging - STYLES within CLASSICAL GENRE (help?)
[QUOTE=Oggy;185733]Does your Sony display Style / Period?[/QUOTE]
I have charged it up now. I am finishing of the final batch of [I]corrections[/I]; then I will test out the SD-card inside it ...
Re: Tagging - STYLES within CLASSICAL GENRE (help?)
[QUOTE=Oggy;185733]Does your Sony display Style / Period?[/QUOTE]
Oggy,
I am waiting from Sony Tech. Support to get back to me later this week concerning the maximum GB size of SD-card I am able to use with the Walkman. Hence, I won't be able to fully answer your question until then. But [I]right off the bat[/I], I can see that it supports: Genre, Artist, Album. Maybe other categories appear if and when you have organised/utilized your files/folders on the SD-card to incorporate such additional tags?
Paul
Re: Tagging - STYLES within CLASSICAL GENRE (help?)
[QUOTE=monsterjazzlick;185747]
I am waiting from Sony Tech. Support to get back to me later this week concerning the maximum GB size of SD-card I am able to use with the Walkman.
Paul[/QUOTE]
Can't you just plug in your SD card from your amazon fire and see if the Sony unit will read it?
Re: Tagging - STYLES within CLASSICAL GENRE (help?)
[QUOTE=garym;185755]Can't you just plug in your SD card from your amazon fire and see if the Sony unit will read it?[/QUOTE]
I tried that already but it just says: "please insert a readable storage device."
Re: Tagging - STYLES within CLASSICAL GENRE (help?)
Hi,
I have ripped my Beethoven 1-9 symphonies CD (Karajan / Deutsch Gramaphone).
I use the STYLE tag in place of PERIOD (ie. whatever data would have gone in PERIOD goes in STYLE instead).
Regarding this tag I am not sure what to enter, please? In GENRE I have obviously written CLASSICAL. By [I]default[/I], 'dBpa' states PERIOD (ie. my STYLE) as CLASSICAL. I don't really want to have CLASSICAL as both the GENRE and STYLE tags. And so, for Beethoven's 1-9, could I use ROMANTIC? I mean, are all of his 9 symphonies classed as 'romantic' works? I would rather have one STYLE which would fit all 9 works if possible.
Many thanks in advance.
Paul
Re: Tagging - STYLES within CLASSICAL GENRE (help?)
[QUOTE=monsterjazzlick;186824]Hi,
I have ripped my Beethoven 1-9 symphonies CD (Karajan / Deutsch Gramaphone).
I use the STYLE tag in place of PERIOD (ie. whatever data would have gone in PERIOD goes in STYLE instead).
Regarding this tag I am not sure what to enter, please? In GENRE I have obviously written CLASSICAL. By [I]default[/I], 'dBpa' states PERIOD (ie. my STYLE) as CLASSICAL. I don't really want to have CLASSICAL as both the GENRE and STYLE tags. And so, for Beethoven's 1-9, could I use ROMANTIC? I mean, are all of his 9 symphonies classed as 'romantic' works? I would rather have one STYLE which would fit all 9 works if possible.
Many thanks in advance.
Paul[/QUOTE]
Hi Paul,
Interesting one, because he overlaps the Classical and Romantic periods. Possibly Eroica onwards is Romantic.
How about Symphonic, if you want one Style?
Re: Tagging - STYLES within CLASSICAL GENRE (help?)
[QUOTE=Oggy;186825]Hi Paul,
Interesting one, because he overlaps the Classical and Romantic periods. Possibly Eroica onwards is Romantic.
How about Symphonic, if you want one Style?[/QUOTE]
Thanks Oggy,
I appreciate your thoughts.
Funnily enough SYMPHONIC was the [I]default [/I]tag in most of my Haydn CDs. But to me, the term SYMPHONIC would relate to the [I]size[/I] of the ensemble (eg. it would imply a large scale work for orchestra) rather than the 'stylistic' [I]properties[/I] of the composition. Personally, I don't feel it is quite [I]definitive[/I] enough.
Cheers,
Paul
Re: Tagging - STYLES within CLASSICAL GENRE (help?)
Hi,
To end this [I]tying myself up in knots[/I] malarkey, I am thinking the easiest solution is to name Beethoven, Haydn, and Mozart as being:
[INDENT]GENRE = Classical
Style = First Viennese[/INDENT]
[INDENT][URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Viennese_School"]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Viennese_School[/URL][/INDENT]
I really can't see there being any other solution to placing them all under the same [I]umbrella[/I], and avoiding using 'classical' for both GENRE and STYLE?
It would be great if any classical [I]buffs[/I] might be able to confirm, please?
Cheers,
Paul
Re: Tagging - STYLES within CLASSICAL GENRE (help?)
Hi,
Do you think it is also correct/incorrect to categorize Schubert as 'First Viennese' rather than 'Romantic', please?
Thanks.