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CursedAudible
04-29-2004, 05:58 AM
The books on "MP3" service Audible.com actually sells files encoded in their own format. While I'm sure that the format has it's advantages, I would like to see dMC get a codec to convert it to more conventional formats. Currently the program Goldwave can do this, but I much prefer dMC.

This has probably been posted in the past, but I didn't see it on cursory inspection.

Thanks,
~C

Unregistered
06-08-2004, 02:59 AM
You can use a utility called graphedit to convert an audible (aa) stream to mp3 or wav (other possibilities) and then dump to a file. It uses DirectShow filters, but allows the user to edit the input and output of the filter streams. This program can be found on some divX enthusiast sites. Try vcdhelp.com for starters.

Marilene
07-09-2004, 07:27 AM
where can I find this graphedit program?

Unregistered
07-09-2004, 07:49 AM
never mind. I guess I need to read th entire post before I ask questions huh?

Sorry for the mistake.

m

Unregistered
07-11-2004, 02:39 AM
Using graphedit, can you give a step by step on a conversion from .aa to .mp3? Looked through the filters available in graphedit and couldn't figure out how exactly to use the program and make it through the conversion process...

Unregistered
08-06-2004, 09:29 AM
Hi. I too would really like to be able to convert aa to mp3. However I would like even more to be able to convert mp3 to aa. This way I can convert 'spoken word' mp3 to aa and take advantage of the audiobook functions on my player such as fast/slow playback that are not available for standard mp3 files.

Unregistered
08-20-2004, 03:35 AM
I would just like to know if anyone knows what program i can use to convert an mp3 into an aa (audible audio) file.

Unregistered
08-21-2004, 01:27 PM
Go to http://www.riverpast.com/en/prod/audioconverter/. Works fine.

Unregistered
09-02-2004, 02:13 AM
What's the license on the riverpast software?

How long can you use it without buying it?

Thx

Unregistered
09-03-2004, 04:10 AM
email titlemanager@hotmail.com for any questions you might have for using River Past Audio Converter to convert .aa to .mp3 or if you need this prog.

Unregistered
09-13-2004, 05:47 AM
where can I find this <B style="color:black;background-color:*ffff66">graphedit </B><B style="color:black;background-color:*A0FFFF">program</B>?

Unregistered
10-07-2004, 05:19 PM
Just downloaded Audio Converter from RiverPast and tried to "add" an .aa file to be converted, but I got an error message saying it's not a recognizable audio file. The I checked the input files the converter supports. Audible.com programs (.aa files) aren't included.

roamer
10-08-2004, 01:19 PM
I noticed RiverPast recently removed support for .aa files

Pix_Collector
10-09-2004, 05:00 PM
Is it possible to use an older version or incorporate an extra plugin?

Regards,

Pix Collector

Sdmyers
10-10-2004, 08:06 PM
Version 5.0 supported conversion of Audible files, but they removed that functionality in the most recent incarnation. I looked around for the old version, but most of the download sites just point you back to the River Past download page.
If anyone knows where one could obtain version 5.0, please share.
-Shawn

Unregistered
10-13-2004, 11:33 AM
I realise it is not a Codec, but Total Recorder (Standard Edition) from High Criteria Inc will record Audible Audio files into an alternative format, including MP3.

Sdmyers
10-13-2004, 03:54 PM
That did work, thanks. However, I think the professional version will probably be required to chop the Audible files into manageable chunks; they download in seven-hour blocks.
Thanks again,
-Shawn

Unregistered
10-17-2004, 05:05 AM
Ok, here's a guide to using graphedit.
First up you're obviously going to need graphedit. Go to www.videohelp.com and search for it. Download and extract it. Browse to the folder and run register.bat to get the required directshow filters.
Second you need graphedit to be able to understand your audible file. To do this you need Windows Media Player to understand it - they both use the same filters. Go to the Audible homepage and find the download site for your book. Select the format you want (probably the highest) and click stream. Internet Explorer will ask if you want to install the activex controls. (If you have SP2 you may have to click in the information bar). Install these. Click stream again to verify that WMP will open and play the audio.
Now go into graphedit. Go to File --> Render Media File. Find your audible file. It may be stored in C:\Program Files\Audible\Programs\Downloads (I'm assuming you've already downloaded your book!). Now you'll see some grey boxes basically which show what's happening to your file. You'll see the file is passed to the audible codec which then sends it to the directsound device (i.e. your speakers). The idea is to grab that speaker output and redirect it to a file. So click the last grey box and press delete. You now are left with just the two boxes.
Go to Graph --> Insert Filters. In the big list find Directshow Filters and click the + next to it. Now find WAV dest (if it's not there you didn't run register.bat!). Click insert filter. In the same list find File Writer. Click insert filter. Choose a name for your file (like, i dunno, audible.wav) Click close. You'll now see the grey boxes that you've just created. We have to tell graphedit that from the audible codec the sound is fed to WAV dest and then file writer. Find the little box on the right of the audible grey box that says output. Drag from there to the in on wav dest. From the out of wav dest drag to the in of audible.wav (or whatever you called it).
Now it's ready to go. Click play on the toolbar and wait. It won't seem like it's doing much. Open the folder where you are saving your wav. Have a look at it's file size. It's probably a fairly small number. Check it occasionally. When it's big (around 150MB per hour of audio) it's probably done. Click stop inside graphedit. Double click on your wave to open it. You might want to seek to the end and make sure it's all there. Now you can do what you like to your wave like say open it in itunes and convert to mp3 or aac or whatever.

Unregistered
10-25-2004, 05:47 PM
all riverpast version can be downloaded from
http://www.andr.net/sn/?l=r&pn=6

Unregistered
11-01-2004, 09:36 PM
regarding the post above about the guide to using graphedit.... thanks a ton!! That was soooo easy following your instructions and it worked like a charm! Thanks a ton!!!

Unregistered
11-18-2004, 01:25 AM
Hi there!

I also tried to use graphedit and it all worked until I had inserted the filter and was pressing the play-button. I never get any chance to choose a name or where to save the converted file. I have all the codecs and my audiobook.
What's wrong?

Stefan

Barry
01-18-2005, 01:40 AM
I've downloaded both River Past Audio Converter 5.0.3 & graphedit. RPAC says that it doesn't recognize .aa files and I can't figure out how to get graphedit to work. I have 3 books both on my computer and on CD. They use .aa files, but I'd like to listen to them while I drive, and my Blaupunkdt Acapulco MP52 won't play .aa CDs. It is designed to play CDs, CD-Rs, CD-RWs and MP3s. I'd appreciate step by step instructions to get usable CDs.
Thank you,
Barry

ChristinaS
01-18-2005, 02:18 AM
I've downloaded both River Past Audio Converter 5.0.3 & graphedit. RPAC says that it doesn't recognize .aa files and I can't figure out how to get graphedit to work. I have 3 books both on my computer and on CD. They use .aa files, but I'd like to listen to them while I drive, and my Blaupunkdt Acapulco MP52 won't play .aa CDs. It is designed to play CDs, CD-Rs, CD-RWs and MP3s. I'd appreciate step by step instructions to get usable CDs.
Thank you,
Barry
If you can play the file on your computer, then you can record the audio to low bitrate mono .mp3 or other format through the soundcard, by using dMC Auxiliary Input. It's in real time so it will take as long as it takes to listen to the .aa file itself. Maybe you can let it run overnight.

If you want to burn to audio cd rather than mp3's, you can record to low bitrate .wma format, and subsequently burn (many) audio cd's using dMC CD writer.

LtData
01-18-2005, 09:10 AM
Try the DirectShow Input Decoder in the Beta section of this forum.

ChristinaS
01-18-2005, 10:45 AM
Try the DirectShow Input Decoder in the Beta section of this forum.
Oh, wonderful, LtData. I'd missed the one. :thumbup:

Barry
01-18-2005, 10:51 PM
OK, I downloaded DS Input Decoder, along with dbpowerAMP & Thomson mp3Pro. Now, what are the steps to convert this .aa file?
Barry

LtData
01-18-2005, 11:01 PM
Did you get the Audible installer stuff that was mentioned in the post? You need that also.

Barry
01-18-2005, 11:30 PM
Yes, how do I put it all together?

LtData
01-18-2005, 11:41 PM
I'm not sure, as I don't currently have it installed. I guess just install the DirectShow decoder then the audible component.

Barry
01-18-2005, 11:49 PM
I'm lost. I need someone to guide me through the process. I believe that everything is installed, but they aren't connected to each other.

Spoon
01-19-2005, 04:09 PM
You have to type .aa into the configuration file for DirectShow, reinstall the DS dbpoweramp codec and it is auto shown after install.

Barry
01-25-2005, 10:22 AM
Thanks for the help. I finally did figure out how to use this program. It isn't ideal, as I will mention later, but it did the job. For those who would like step by step instructions, here they are:
Start - Programs - dBPowerAMPMusicConverter - Configure DirectShowDecoder (notepad file)
Replace .xyz with .aa (close and save changes)
Start - Programs - dBPowerAMPMusicConverter - dBPowerAMPMusicConverter
Select Music Files to Convert:
Change Files of type to DirectShow (*.aa)
C - Program files - Audible - Programs - Downloads - double click on file to convert
dBPowerAMPMusicConverter
Converting 1 File to Mp3 (Lame)
Click Output to Folder and choose where you want the converted file to go.
Click Convert
It is a good idea to click the left arrow when Section Navigation comes up, even though you may have to redo the last dBPowerAMPMusicConverter steps, as without doing this, it often doesn't start at the beginning (even with doing this you may lose a few seconds at the beginning -- This is the problem I see with dBPowerAMPMusicConverter. It often takes multiple tries to get a clean converted file.). If the converter shows less than 1 hour remaining when it starts, you probably aren't starting at the beginning.
Though dBPowerAMPMusicConverter is an unpredictable nuisance, it does the job.

Spoon
01-26-2005, 03:40 PM
For information the AA directshow codec is very poor, I have seen Windows Media Player do the same, and it was written specifically for that.

Dilligent
02-17-2005, 06:21 PM
Ok, here's a guide to using graphedit.
First up you're obviously going to need graphedit. Go to www.videohelp.com and search for it. Download and extract it. Browse to the folder and run register.bat to get the required directshow filters.
Second you need graphedit to be able to understand your audible file. To do this you need Windows Media Player to understand it - they both use the same filters. Go to the Audible homepage and find the download site for your book. Select the format you want (probably the highest) and click stream. Internet Explorer will ask if you want to install the activex controls. (If you have SP2 you may have to click in the information bar). Install these. Click stream again to verify that WMP will open and play the audio.
Now go into graphedit. Go to File --> Render Media File. Find your audible file. It may be stored in C:\Program Files\Audible\Programs\Downloads (I'm assuming you've already downloaded your book!). Now you'll see some grey boxes basically which show what's happening to your file. You'll see the file is passed to the audible codec which then sends it to the directsound device (i.e. your speakers). The idea is to grab that speaker output and redirect it to a file. So click the last grey box and press delete. You now are left with just the two boxes.
Go to Graph --> Insert Filters. In the big list find Directshow Filters and click the + next to it. Now find WAV dest (if it's not there you didn't run register.bat!). Click insert filter. In the same list find File Writer. Click insert filter. Choose a name for your file (like, i dunno, audible.wav) Click close. You'll now see the grey boxes that you've just created. We have to tell graphedit that from the audible codec the sound is fed to WAV dest and then file writer. Find the little box on the right of the audible grey box that says output. Drag from there to the in on wav dest. From the out of wav dest drag to the in of audible.wav (or whatever you called it).
Now it's ready to go. Click play on the toolbar and wait. It won't seem like it's doing much. Open the folder where you are saving your wav. Have a look at it's file size. It's probably a fairly small number. Check it occasionally. When it's big (around 150MB per hour of audio) it's probably done. Click stop inside graphedit. Double click on your wave to open it. You might want to seek to the end and make sure it's all there. Now you can do what you like to your wave like say open it in itunes and convert to mp3 or aac or whatever.


Whew...Ok, finally figured this out. There are several distributions of GraphEdit. Of course the 1st one I downloaded had no mention of "register.bat" You can get GraphEdit with register.bat here
http://www.stokebloke.com/video/download2/graphedit011008.zip

extract and click on register.bat. The screen will turn black for a moment. Not to worry. I think I rebooted to make sure it "took." Reboot may or may not be necessary, I just include it to be dilligent (;0)

Follow the rest of the directions and all should go well.

vejalink
09-02-2005, 12:48 PM
Additional notes on using GraphEdit:

This post is for anyone who might be having trouble using GraphEdit and getting the register.bat file to work.

First of all, you can download GraphEdit at the following sites:
http://www.digital-digest.com/dvd/downloads/showsoftware_graphedit_141.html or
http://www.videohelp.com/tools?tool=GraphEdit
The stokebloke site mentioned in some of the forum posts doesn't seem to have this program anymore.

I tried to use the other programs (GoldWave and River Past) suggested on this and other forums for converting .aa files to mp3, but they didn't work for me. With GoldWave I was never able to open my Audible file. It would freeze at 48% every time. I tried everything to find a solution, but nothing worked. Some people say that this method works only on some computers; perhaps this is the case with mine, or perhaps I couldn't get the proper version of either this or Audible Manager. Anyway, I also tried River Past but couldn't even get the program to open on my computer. (I downloaded all of the necessary software that it requires as well.) I was unable to find the older version of River Past anyway; all of the links listed on this forum either went to the new version or didn't work, so perhaps the older versions have been made unavailable. Also, I really didn't want to have to pay for a program to do this since I seldom need this kind of software.

My only hope was to try GraphEdit, which sounded like a little bit of a pain, but it's free, and it's better than playing my audio book for nine hours while capturing the sound. I read the instructions for GraphEdit posted here and on other forums and successfully downloaded and extracted the files. However, I ran into trouble when I tried to run register.bat.

When I double clicked on register.bat, the screen displayed a bunch of bad command error messages. I read a few comments on different forums from people who had this problem, and I couldn't find any solutions. The only suggestion I saw was something about manually typing in the path name for the regsvr32.exe file before each batch command, but it didn't explain how to do this exactly. Not knowing much about this subject, I was just about to give up on it, but I finally figured out a way to get it to work. There might be an easier way, but I don't know much about solving these sorts of problems, and this worked.

You have to find the regsvr32.exe file (probably in C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\). Instead of doing a batch registration of the DirectShow filters (which is what register.bat does), you can register the filter files manually by using Windows Explorer and going to the folder where the GraphEdit files are saved. (You will know which files they are if you try to run register.bat and get the error message because the file names are displayed on the screen.) When you try to open one, a window comes up asking which program you would like to use to open it. Browse to the regsvr32.exe location and open with that. There is a box you can check to tell it to always open this file with this program, and when I did this, the icons for all of the other filter files had changed. You have to open each of them to register it. Then you can run GraphEdit, and the appropriate filters will be displayed in the Graph--Insert Filters menu. By the way, the wav file I made was not quite as big as the posted guide for using GraphEdit would indicate; mine was 496 MB for a nine-hour book.

Disclaimer: The reason I wanted to convert .aa files is that I bought an audio book from Audible to give to someone as a gift, and I wanted to burn it to CD. However, my CD burner is not recognized by Audible, so I couldn't do it. I used GraphEdit to convert it to a wav file so that I could then convert it to mp3. My purpose is not to distribute illegal copies but only to transfer what I legitimately purchased to CD once and then to delete the book from my computer. Unfortunately, Audible, by not letting us convert their files to other formats, not letting us burn CDs unless we have an approved CD burner, and pressuring anyone who makes audio converters not to convert their files, has forced those of us who want to follow the rules to find ways to get around them. I didn't want to waste the money that I spent with Audible, so this was my only option.

gilex
07-26-2006, 03:34 PM
if you use itunes on your pc you can burn to disc and then covert to mp3,but you may need a lot of discs!,however, if you download and install the audible windows media player from here:http://download.audible.com/webinstall/AudibleMediaPlayerFilter.exe and use the db powerAMP method described above ,it seems to make all the difference!,I've found it works fine!

pauldreed
08-11-2006, 04:29 PM
if you use itunes on your pc you can burn to disc and then covert to mp3,but you may need a lot of discs!,however, if you download and install the audible windows media player from here:http://download.audible.com/webinstall/AudibleMediaPlayerFilter.exe and use the db powerAMP method described above ,it seems to make all the difference!,I've found it works fine!
I cannot find the audible windows media player file, it appears to have been removed from the Audible site, I have PM'd you my email address, can you help please?

Motoki
08-13-2006, 12:05 AM
Try here http://www.coolutils.com/Downloads/AudibleMediaPlayerFilter.exe

pauldreed
08-13-2006, 04:35 PM
Try here http://www.coolutils.com/Downloads/AudibleMediaPlayerFilter.exe
Thanks Motoki, works a treat!!

LtData
08-14-2006, 06:10 PM
Locked and moved to dMC Wishlist. This is now available in Codec Central for dMC.