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jabberwockie
09-07-2015, 04:23 PM
Under options, metadata, options, write ID tags, I have HDCD "checked" and yet I have several disks that have been detected as being HDCD's but I donít see the metadata on the files.
Missing something?

mville
09-07-2015, 04:35 PM
Under options, metadata, options, write ID tags, I have HDCD "checked" and yet I have several disks that have been detected as being HDCD's but I don&*8217;t see the metadata on the files.

Which platform/OS, dBpoweramp version, output file format?

jabberwockie
09-07-2015, 04:45 PM
Which platform/OS, dBpoweramp version, output file format?

windows 7, dbpoweramp 64-bit: Registered Reference release 15, output to both flac lossless Uncompressed and apple lossless with DSP effects HD HDCD (+6 dB amplifications "checked)

mville
09-07-2015, 04:57 PM
windows 7, dbpoweramp 64-bit: Registered Reference release 15, output to both flac lossless Uncompressed and apple lossless with DSP effects HD HDCD (+6 dB amplifications "checked)

In CDRipper with your HDCD inserted:

1. Do you have HDCD listed for all tracks, under the Track Technical column?

2. Do you have the HDCD tag listed with a value 'Yes', in the Meta tab, Meta Data for All Tracks (bottom centre of main CDRipper window)?

If you have neither, what happens if you don't Rip to [Multi Encoder], i.e. Rip to FLAC?

jabberwockie
09-07-2015, 05:07 PM
In CDRipper with your HDCD inserted:

1. Do you have HDCD listed for all tracks, under the Track Technical column?

2. Do you have the HDCD tag listed with a value 'Yes', in the Meta tab, Meta Data for All Tracks (bottom centre of main CDRipper window)?

If you have neither, what happens if you don't Rip to [Multi Encoder], i.e. Rip to FLAC?

"Yes" for * 1 and *2

mville
09-07-2015, 05:09 PM
"Yes" for * 1 and *2

... and there is no HDCD tag in your ripped flac files?

jabberwockie
09-07-2015, 07:36 PM
... and there is no HDCD tag in your ripped flac files?
There is NO HDCD tag in my ripped flac file.

here is the audio properties:
Artist Jim Brickman
Title The Promise
Album Simple Things
Track 1/13
Disc 1/1
Genre New Age
Year 2001
Rating 5
Composer Jim Brickman
Size 31.31 MB (29% Compressed)
Original Size 44.03 MB
Length 2 minutes 54 seconds
Channels 2 (stereo)
Sample Rate 44.1 KHz;
Sample Size 24 bit
Bit Rate 2,116 kbps (DVD)
Encoder FLAC reference libFLAC 1.3.0 20130526
Encoder Settings
Audio Quality Perfect (Lossless)
Contains Album Art, CRC, ID Tag [Vorbis Comments]
Channel Mapping
File 01- Jim Brickman - The Promise
Type VLC media file (.flac) [.flac]

mville
09-07-2015, 08:21 PM
There is NO HDCD tag in my ripped flac file.

here is the audio properties:
Artist Jim Brickman
Title The Promise
Album Simple Things
...

It might not show in audio properties. Two things to try.

Right-click the same file and select Edit ID-Tag, is HDCD tag listed?

Have you tried ripping without using [Multi-Encoder]? I have just tested ripping to FLAC only and the HDCD tag is being written (Windows 8.1 64-bit, dBpoweramp R15.3).

http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx157/mvilleuk/dBpoweramp/HDCDTag.jpg

jabberwockie
09-07-2015, 09:30 PM
It might not show in audio properties. Two things to try.

Right-click the same file and select Edit ID-Tag, is HDCD tag listed?

Have you tried ripping without using [Multi-Encoder]? I have just tested ripping to FLAC only and the HDCD tag is being written (Windows 8.1 64-bit, dBpoweramp R15.3).

http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx157/mvilleuk/dBpoweramp/HDCDTag.jpg

HDCD tag was added when I ripped without multi-encoder. Seems to be a bug with the multiencoder.

jabberwockie
09-07-2015, 09:31 PM
It might not show in audio properties. Two things to try.

Right-click the same file and select Edit ID-Tag, is HDCD tag listed?

Have you tried ripping without using [Multi-Encoder]? I have just tested ripping to FLAC only and the HDCD tag is being written (Windows 8.1 64-bit, dBpoweramp R15.3).

http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx157/mvilleuk/dBpoweramp/HDCDTag.jpg

HDCD tag was added when I didn't use the multi-encoder. Seems to be a bug with the multi-encoder.

Spoon
09-08-2015, 02:57 AM
It is just a design limitation.

jabberwockie
09-08-2015, 08:18 AM
HDCD tag is displaying now that I have multi-encoder turned off. Seems to be a bug with the multi-encoder.

mville
09-08-2015, 12:24 PM
HDCD tag is displaying now that I have multi-encoder turned off. Seems to be a bug with the multi-encoder.

Yes, sorry, I alluded to Multi Encoder as a possible cause to the problem earlier in the thread, but I could have been a little clearer.

IMO, Multi Encoder is more trouble than it's worth.

jabberwockie
09-08-2015, 09:32 PM
Yes, sorry, I alluded to Multi Encoder as a possible cause to the problem earlier in the thread, but I could have been a little clearer.

IMO, Multi Encoder is more trouble than it's worth.

does any of this find its way back to the folks that develop the tool? be good to get this resolved.

Porcus
09-09-2015, 01:43 AM
Weighing in with some uneducated points (I have not ripped CDs with this option);

- A lot of CDs are "HDCD" but with no features employed. Could it be that those are not tagged?

- Can dBpoweramp now scan and tag without decoding? IMHO one should not decode HDCDs when ripping to lossless (https://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthread.php?25648-Questions-about-DSP-s&p=119732&viewfull=1*post119732)
and especially not on a tracks basis - it seems to me (though I could be wrong) that then the HDCD decoding is reset at track boundaries and does not start until a bit into the track: https://www.hydrogenaud.io/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=66233&view=findpost&p=905120

mville
09-09-2015, 06:13 AM
A lot of CDs are "HDCD" but with no features employed. Could it be that those are not tagged?

If I remember correctly, with CDRipper >> Meta Data & ID Tag >> Write ID Tags >> HDCD (ticked), CDRipper writes this tag with a value Yes, on a track by track basis, if the track has the HDCD flag, that is all.


Can dBpoweramp now scan and tag without decoding? IMHO one should not decode HDCDs when ripping to lossless (https://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthread.php?25648-Questions-about-DSP-s&p=119732&viewfull=1*post119732)
and especially not on a tracks basis - it seems to me (though I could be wrong) that then the HDCD decoding is reset at track boundaries and does not start until a bit into the track: https://www.hydrogenaud.io/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=66233&view=findpost&p=905120

The HDCD tag in question is informational only and separate from the HDCD DSP. This thread is regarding the HDCD tag and not the HDCD DSP. Personally, I write the HDCD tag but do not use the HDCD DSP when ripping to flac.