Help setting and configuring up sveta to work with iRiver

[tbnorris]

Hey all,
I love Sveta i am using release 5 with the WMP, iPod, UMS, and iRiver drivers installed, but i cannot find a thread that touches any of these issues, so here it is.
I have an iRiver H10 20GB. It works as a DTP or something, well it only works with WMP10. I am going to use Sveta with my fiance's iPod nano, but i have to work out my problems before i mess with her's, or i will never hear the end of it.
Some of the issues:
1.>The unit is always showing up as a 2.6GB, or so, player, i do not see a way to adjust this. It does not seem to mess up the transfers though, but i would love it to be actuate.

2.>When I look at the player as a hard drive it puts the data in X:media with no sub-folders, and it should be X:mediamusic that the song are placed in, and iRiver supports sub-folders. This is bad because it is hard to remove songs from the unit, with out just erasing everything and then reloading everything.

3.>I have an issue sending the playlist (*.m3u) to the iRiver i can send the songs from the playlist to the unit but not the actual playlist, or at least the iRiver will not see it. I think it belongs in X:mediaplaylist\n
4.>When i look at the songs that are on the H10 using Sveta it is not accurate, it shows the artists as being the track numbers of the songs.

I think that is all that I need help with.
Thanks soooooo much for any and all help.
-=tbn=-

[Spoon]

Which driver is being used to talk to the iriver, windows media or removable device driver.

[tbnorris]

ohh. i am sorry i thought that i stated that. i am using the WMP one because that is what it wants me to use, and since the iRiver documentation states that WMP10 is the only way to connect the iRiver. It can be used as a UMS, but not as easily as it can be used as a DTP(Window Media Player compatible MP3 Player, I don't know if DTP is a standard term i don't even know what the DTP actually stands for).
If i tried to use the UMS driver will it build the database for the iRiver also.
-=tbn=-

[Spoon]

>drive it puts the data in X:media with no sub-folders

By data, do you mean audio files, or data (non-audio) files?

[tbnorris]

i do mean audio files. i have not even used it to store just data yet and most likely will not because it has some stupid propriety connector on it. and to make sure that everything is explained as far as how i would love to have everything organized. X:\media\music\genre\artistname\album\artist-album-tracknumber-songtitle.mp3 were x is the mp3 player's windows assigned drive letter and the genre part is not NEEDED, i can live with out it, but would love the artist\album part.

also, if there is a way to rename and organize the files automatically with dMC or dMP, with redchairsoftware's iRivium software it could move all of the files on the hard drive and, if you played with it, the computer's hard drive in to the above mentioned order, but it does not work with the H10 series, and i would love to rename and move some of the files that for one reason or another do not fall under this order. the last part is a little off topic though. but if you know were to point me i would love it.

And again thanks so much for your help,
i bought the program because i loved the fact that it works with my player, but these are just the couple of things that i would love to get up and running or even added to a newer version if they are not avalible.
-=tbn=-

[tbnorris]

never mind that "off subject" part of the post it looks like the arrange codec part is what i need. i will play with that now.
-=tbn=-

[Spoon]

If using the Windows Media Device driver, the file is uploaded to the folder programmed into the driver, I am guessing that WMP 10 woulod upload exactly the same?

[tbnorris]

i would have thought that also, but... when i first used sveta i moved files to the h10, then i looked at what was on the h10 with sveta and ONLY what i put on it with sveta showed up. i was confused so i then went back to WMP10 and it only showed what was put on it with WMP10, i think, then i went to the drive with explorer and the files that i sent with sveta were in \media and the files sent to the h10 with WMP10 were under \media\music\. so i deleted the stuff under \media\music\ and replaced the removed files with sveta and sveta could see them, but it was still in just \media with no subfolders. i could remove everything and resync it with WMP10 to see what happens, in fact i will do that tonight, as an expriement. i thought that it was not quite right, but it is still acting the same way after i loaded everything on both the iRiver and my laptop.
-=tbn=-

[tbnorris]

alright, i am still sending files to the h10, but WMP10 is saving all files in x:\Media\Music\artist\album\
all pictures go in
x:\Media\Music\Pictures
and text documents go in
x:\Data\Text\
the playlists are stored
x:\Media\Playlists
and DRM stuff looks like it goes in
x:\Media\Service

and Sveta is still just saving the music in
x:\media\
with no subfolders.

could it be an issue that the driver only says x:\media is where all media belongs and WMP10 goes ok well the music should go in a folder labeled music and the pictures go in a seperate folder and text documents go in yet another folder, if you follow me. So, WMP10 makes the assumtion that it can handle more folders and uses them. also, this is a "plays for sure" player, could that be i don't know if "plays for sure" means anything more then that it is good at playing all of the DRM'd crap that the RIAA is forcing down our collective throats, but i just remembered that and thought that i should mention it also.
-=tbn=-

[Spoon]

If using the wmp driver playlist support has yet to be written (it reqiures a driver that works only on XP, not backwords compatible with previous windows versions), that is slowing the implementation.

[tbnorris]

OK i understand the playlist thing then.
but, what about the fact that sveta is
1.>reporting that my h10-20GB is smaller then it is, like 1/10 that actual size. 2675MB to be exact, this throws off the ability to know if it is full as i usually have quite i bit of data on the unit.
2.>saving files in the wrong folders
3 is the playlist thing. which is now explained.
4.>not showing the correct artist or track title in Sveta under any view.
like the song Nine Inch Nails, The Hand that Feeds(single), track #01 The Hand that Feeds(album version) shows up as artist=01, track=nine_inch_nails-the_hand_that_feeds_(album_version)
the file's name is 01-nine_inch_nails-the_hand_that_feeds_(album_version).mp3
so it takes it from the title directly, but the tag is prefect, does it just read that file names and guess??? don't most mp3 players have a list or database file like i know that the iRiver, or at least my old h3XX series, contains, that tells the unit what is in the storage of the player that Sveta can process and then display accurately checked track listings and/or back them up and check to see if the saved one is the same for people like me that only use one computer for music so that it does not have to reread the whole file, just some ideas on how i think that is works and possible remedies.
-=tbn=-
p.s. thank you for the spelchek function i have never used it before this thread, and my spelling is usually really really bad. OH, and thanks again for the help and answers.

[Spoon]

>1.>reporting that my h10-20GB is smaller then it is,

It is just limiting at 2 gb, once you are below that it will show the true value.

>4.>not showing the correct artist or track title in Sveta under any view.

Another limitation of the non-XP driver, it takes from the filename looking for - between artist and tract title.

[tbnorris]

is there a way to add the xp driver to sveta and other dbpower amp proggies. i know that at work i have some shell scripts for installing anti-spyware programs that check the OS. like ewido and MS anti-spyware require "services" which anything, but XP and win2kpro do not have so they do not work. and also when installing ad-aware it does a check to see if winME is installed for the line that copies over the def file. for some reason WinME does not use the same commands tha win98, XP, and Win2kpro use (or at least they do not work as well) to nav. through files. XP and Win2kpro take the "progra~1" but they do not work with ME.
just an idea, it would make it MORE feature rich (in some cases) with just a little extra coding, that is if you can just "tap" into the driver.
-=tbn=-

edit: oh and if i am just full of shit then, just tell me i am full of shit. my windows programing is kind of out of date, the last REAL programing i have done was about ummmm... 4ish years ago and that was with GUI stuff and i never took the activeX class. i tend to program microprocessors more then anything and have never got into the processing of drivers, but i thought that it was along the lines of load the driver and then call with functions kind of like an inharated class <- sorry i cannot spell that well, and even i know that that is spelled wrong, but the SpelChk thing is gone for the edit.

[Spoon]

It is a complete rewrite...