iPod problem

[Agrajag]

Guys,

I recently have had a problem with my iPod and, I believe, Sveta.

Let me provide an example.

I decide I want to copy two songs to the iPod. I choose them in Sveta and copy them over. They get converted to MP3 format and then copied over.

I then check them by clicking on their new entry in the list of music on the iPod and they play fine.

I then take my iPod with me on a trip and I choose to play one of the songs. I start it up and it shows the name of the song but plays another song from the same band but doesn't show it. I then pick the second song I copied and it does the same exact thing. I plays another song from the same band while showing the title of the song I picked.

Then, every once in a while, I'll go in and delete the "confused" song and re-create it and go and play it on the while still in Sveta. No problem. Then I disconnect Sveta and go the the iPod and play it and it starts to play the song but then switches immediately to another song from the same band and displays that info.

[xoas]

If you are not using the latest beta version of Sveta with the updated iPod driver (installed first, both available from the Beta forum here:
http://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthread.php?t=4628 ) you might try that.

Do you have the specifications for your model iPod in terms of its mp3 capability?
Perhaps it is having a problem with trying to handle a particular variable bitrate or a particular preset (more likely, I would guess if you use the alt presets).

Perhaps another user can offer more insight.

Best wishes,
Bill

[Agrajag]

I'm up to date with the beta and this is an iPod Photo, the 60GB iPod.

This is driving me nuts as it only seems to be affecting the most recently added songs. The older songs all seem fine.

[xoas]

Since I don't use Sveta or have an iPod I am limited in what advice to offer.
I assume you may have already seen the posting here:
http://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthread.php?t=7420
talking about possible tag problems.

Can you access tag information on your iPod?
Does tag information display correctly?
Does it show your iPod files to be of an appropriate file size?
And what mp3 settings are you using?

These strike me as questions that may help to pinpoint the nature of your problem.

Best wishes,
Bill

[Spoon]

On the Extras >> iPod Properties how have you set the naming of files on the player?

[rledford]

I am using Sveta portable with the iPod driver version 6. I have downloaded some songs to the iPOD. When I press play on the iPOD, the songs are skipped from the first song to the last song. I also D/L some podcasts and the iPOD skips over them with no sound whatsoever. Using iTunes, the songs play with sound.

Help!

[rledford]

I am using Sveta Portable latest beta replease, version 5.

[rledford]

The music files and podcast files are listes under the Data Files TAB as well as under the Audio Tracks. Is this normal or am I not setting an option correctly. Before my upgrade to the latest versions, I did not have this problem.

[Agrajag]

Spoon, I hadn't seen that thread about tags but that doesn't appear to be my problem. What's concerning is that this is affecting songs I just recently copied over from Sveta. We're talking about a dozen songs out of 1400 Sveta put on there over time.

I also search several iPod groups and forums and no one is reporting this problem so that points the finger back at either my iPod or Sveta.

What rledford mentions sounds related. As I noted, in SOME cases, I can pick a song and it will just skip to another song (maybe the last song) from that artist.

On your question about how I name my files under that section, I'm not sure which item you're asking about.

I have it set this way:

iPod Name: RICH'S IPOD

Checked:

When Edit ID Tags Update Audio File
Auto dismount iPod on Exit (which still doesn't work for me by the way)

Ah, perhaps you mean this (which is unchecked)

Audio Arrangement (iPod_Control\Music\[artist] - [track]

Sounds like default to me.

I don't see a way to access tag info on the iPod but I'm not an expert. I just see the artist and track names.

The file sizes from Sveta appear okay.

MP3 settings from where? For now, until I go Apple Lossless (still hope you can come up with an Encoder) I encode to MP3 at 320Kbps Min and Max using VBR. No preset.

[Agrajag]

To add some more specific information to this, I just tried to play the song "Telephone Line" from "Electric Light Orchestra" (yes, I'm old) and its listed on the iPod as song number 18 of 45 (from ELO). When I push Play, I feel the hard drive engage and then "Telephone Line" jumps to "All Over the World" which is song 19 of 45.

In Sveta, "Telephone Line" is listed at 4.41 length so clearly it's taking up some space.

Now, also in Sveta, if I go in and try to play "Turn to Stone", another song, it's playing "Telephone Line". If I try to play "Telephone Line", nothing happens.

I'm going to delete, again, both "Telephone Line" and "Turn to Stone" (which I've done before) and send them back over to the iPod.

(finished)

I now check them in Sveta, played from the iPod. "Telephone Line" is playing "Telephone Line". "Turn to Stone" is playing "Turn to Stone" so everything SEEMS fine (but I've also done this every time previously).

However, now I find that "Waterfall" is now playing "Telephone Line". I'll delete it again and send it over. While "Waterfall" is copying over, Sveta blanks out to an all white screen (didn't happen during the last copy). It then comes back when the copy is done.

I check "Waterfall via Sveta played off the iPod. It plays "Waterfall". Now "Telephone Line" refuses to play again. "Turn to Stone" is still okay.

I now find "Sweet Talkin' Woman" won't play either. (I'm going through all 45 songs)

So, I then delete "Sweet Talkin' Woman" and "Telephone Line" (again). I copy over "Telephone Line" yet again. (by the way, I've checked the WMA file in two locations and it's find on my PC) Then I copy "Sweet Talkin' Woman" over again.

To be safe I close Sveta and disconnect the iPod, then reconnect it and re-launch Sveta.

All 45 songs are there. I start checking. Okay, I checked all but the two problem files. All are currently fine. Now for the two I just copied over. Both of those appear intact.

I'll now go and disconnect Sveta and try to play them from the iPod.

THIS time, everything seems to be playing in iPod. Not sure why. The above clearly shows something is screwy, but what?

[Spoon]

>When I press play on the iPOD, the songs are skipped from the first song to the last song.

The iPod will do this if it is not able to play the file, what are your files, mp3?

[Spoon]

@Agrajag

Next time the iPod is playing a track wrongly: connect it to the PC and open the folder:

x:\iPod_Control\iTunes

(where x is the drive letter of the ipod)

Then copy into an email to me the files iTunesDB, also the files iTunesDB-xx where xx are numbers 0-7. My Email (also say which file is playing wrong :) ):

http://www.dbpoweramp.com/email.htm

[Agrajag]

Will do. Thanks!

[rledford]

>When I press play on the iPOD, the songs are skipped from the first song to the last song.

The iPod will do this if it is not able to play the file, what are your files, mp3?

I have mp3 and mp4 files. They will not play.

[Spoon]

What bitrate are the mp3, if 384 Kbps the ipod will not play them (they are free-form).

Which iPod do you have? how are you transfering the files to the player? have you set up smart conversions to send existing mp3 files 'as is'?

[rledford]

What bitrate are the mp3, if 384 Kbps the ipod will not play them (they are free-form). 128bps.

Which iPod do you have? how are you transfering the files to the player? have you set up smart conversions to send existing mp3 files 'as is'?
ans: iPOD mini. Using Svetaaudioplayer latest release. I transfer all files "as is".

[Spoon]

Hold the mouse over the file it will report what it is, there are various reports on the internet about the iPod not liking certain VBR mp3 files, etc.

Basically if you can select the file on the iPod it should be fine to play, then it comes down to the iPod decoding the actual file. Try setting it to compress to .m4a, see if the file will play when converted on the fly to .m4a (install from codec central).

[rledford]

All of my music files have a fixed bit rate of 128KBPS. I have both mp3 and mp4 files. I am using the ipod mini with the latest software from Apple.

My iPOD mini stopped playing my music files when I upgraded to svetaaudioplayer release rc 1 and your latest iPod mini driver.

I like release RC 1 and I hate to have to go back to the beta 5 release and release 4 iPod driver.

[Spoon]

To clarify no mp3 or m4a files transferred will play?

[rledford]

No mp3 or mp4 files will play on my iPod mini.

[Spoon]

If you can send me 1 mp3 file and 1 m4a file that you have tried and I will try to transfer to my iPod mini:

http://www.dbpoweramp.com/email.htm

[Spoon]

@rledford

Thanks for the files, the bad news is they work fine when uploaded to my iPod Mini, so there is some difference, things to check:

iPod it's self >> Settings >> About >> Version 1.1

dMC Configuration:

dbpowerAMP Music Converter R11.5
Sveta Portable Audio Release 5
Apple iPod Release 6

Sveta Explorer >> Extras >> iPod Properties is Audio Arrangement Checked?
sveta Explorer >> Options >> Compression should be [send as is]

When add the files: under Length, what is the length of the files?

[rledford]

Thanks for testing my files. My settings that are different from yours:

iPod mini itself: Version 1.4 Firmware version 2.6

dmc Configuration:
Sveta Portable Audio Release 5(Beta RC1)

Length of files:
mp3 3,925 KB
m4a 3,604 KB


Ronald

[LtData]

What version of the iPod driver do you have, did you check the settings he told you about?

[rledford]

The settings are the same as Spoon.

I used SPA-SvetaiPod.exe to install the iPod driver (version 6).

The only difference I really see is that Spoon iPOD self is at version 1.1 and my iPod is version 1.4.

The two files are listed under the DATA tab. Is this normal for music files?

My question is how do I load version 1.1 to my iPod? If this is the problem.

[Spoon]

>The two files are listed under the DATA tab. Is this normal for music files?

No that is not right, install dMC R11.5 from here:

http://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthread.php?t=6740

Open dMC Configuration and click, 'copy to clipboard' and paste the settings (from clipboard) into a message here please.

[rledford]

D/L DMC R5 version.

Version Information
dBpowerAMP Music Converter: Release 11.5
Power Pack & Mp3 License: [ Registered: Yes ]
dBpowerAMP Audio Player: Not Installed 'music Player like no other'
dBpowerAMP CD Writer: Not Installed 'easy way to burn audio cds'
Sveta Portable Audio: Release 5 (Beta RC1) [ Unregistered Trial ]
Apple iPod Release 6

Contact Information
Web Site: http://www.dbpoweramp.com
Support: http://www.dbpoweramp.com/support.htm
Support Forum: http://forum.dbpoweramp.com
Codec Central: http://www.dbpoweramp.com/codec-central.htm
Add extra [en/de]coding abilities such as m4a, wma, etc.

Smart Install Codecs
Windows Media Audio: .wma
Ogg Vorbis: .ogg
Musepack: .mpc
Flac: .flac
Monkeys Audio: .ape
OptimFROG: .ofr
Shorten: .shn
WavPack: .wv


===Shell Integration===
Convert To (right click): On
Edit Tag (right click): On
Popup information Tips: On
Explorer ID Tag Property Page: On
Explorer Columns: On


===Codecs===
Installed Compression Codecs (Write)
[Arrange Music]
[Rename Extension]
[Tag from Filename]: Release 1
[Update ID Tag]
AAC to Mp4: [ .mp4 ]
Advanced Audio Coding (CLI): Release 4 [AACEnc v2] [ .aac ]
Apple iPod
Mp3 (Lame): Lame Version 3.96.1 [ .mp3 ]
Mp4 to AAC: [ .aac ]
Test Conversion (No Write)
Wave: [ .wav ]


Installed Input Codecs (Read)
AAC Decoder: Release 2 [Faad v2.0] .aac
Auxiliary Input Decoder: .aux
CD Input Decoder: .cda
Mp3 Input Decoder: .mp3; .mp2; .mpga; .mpa; .mpx; .mpg; .mp1
Mp4 Decoder: Release 2 [Faad v2.0] .mp4; .m4a
Wave Input Decoder: .wav


===Options===
dBpowerAMP Reference Options
Pro. Frequency Conversion: Off (faster but less quality)

Mp3 Input Decoder
CRC Errors: Ignore
Decode To: 16 bit (dithered)

Wave Compression Codec
More than 16 bit or 2 Channels: Write WaveFormatEx Header



===ID Tag Options===
Mp3
Tag Creation: Smart Ape2 & ID3v1
Write ID3v1 Version: v1.1
ID3v1 UTF8 Read: Yes
ID3v1 UTF8 Write: No
Write ID3v2 Unicode: No
Write ID3v2 Version: v2.3

[Spoon]

All looks ok, run this to clear dBpowerAMPs registry and set it to default:

http://www.dbpoweramp.com/bin/dAPResetAll.exe

The try open Sveta Explorer (iPod Icon on desktop) browse to the audio files using the right hand section, and click << arrow to copy to the iPod, they should appear on the under the Audio tab, not the data files tab.

[rledford]

I ran the reset program. Now, my iPod mini is working as it should.

I am now listening to my iPod mini play my songs.

Also, none of my music files are listed under the Data Tab.


Thanks


Ronald

[Spoon]

Odd it must have been one setting, not sure which.