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Link500X
04-16-2005, 02:12 PM
I found out about this codec at free-codecs.com. I tested it and it compresses twice as well as monkey's audio. I got a file down to 50% compared to monkey's audio 25%. Their homepage is http://lossless-audio.com
This would be a great addition to codec central.

Tomb
04-18-2005, 02:30 PM
More on comparisions between lossless formats here. (http://members.home.nl/w.speek/comparison.htm). You can use the codec with the generic CLI codec.

I find it resource hungry when decoding and sometimes when encoding.

LtData
04-18-2005, 04:05 PM
It also takes a good while to encode and decode a file. I'll stick with Monkey's.

neilthecellist
04-20-2005, 11:13 AM
Notice how LA isn't compared to Monkey's Audio on the LA homepage! http://www.lossless-audio.com/comparison.htm

LtData
04-20-2005, 11:15 AM
Mac = Monkey's Audio, neil. They are compared to each other. Mouse over "Mac" and notice it points to the Monkey's Audio homepage.

neilthecellist
04-20-2005, 11:20 AM
oops. me stupid. (runs away and abandons thread)

Tomb
04-21-2005, 02:59 PM
He doesn't compare against True Audio Lossless Codec (http://www.true-audio.com/) which would have been interesting. This one encodes very fast indeed.

neilthecellist
04-21-2005, 09:20 PM
What if s/he didn't know True Audio Lossless Codec existed? ^_^

Well, if True Audio Lossless Codec is faster than LA, maybe Spoon should consider creating a TA codec for dMC.

Tomb
04-22-2005, 03:45 AM
I am sure the developer knows that TTA exists as he and the TTA developers are both Hydrogen Audio members. Putting that aside I notice that the last release of Lossless Audio was in early 2004 - TTA first appeared around that time. Maybe Lossless Audio isn't being developed anymore?

Whilst the codecs in codec central are excellent for those who do not like command lines Spoon does not really need to create a codec for it. Just use the generic CLI Codec and use the command lines available via the command prompt or the codec's website.

neilthecellist
04-22-2005, 11:07 AM
I am sure the developer knows that TTA exists as he and the TTA developers are both Hydrogen Audio members. Putting that aside I notice that the last release of Lossless Audio was in early 2004 - TTA first appeared around that time. Maybe Lossless Audio isn't being developed anymore?

Whilst the codecs in codec central are excellent for those who do not like command lines Spoon does not really need to create a codec for it. Just use the generic CLI Codec and use the command lines available via the command prompt or the codec's website.

Speaking of command line procedures, I've always asked on how to use the command lines to convert audio. So far, I can't even convert mp3 using the LAME command lines........(I dunno if I'm making sense, I have no experience with command prompt)

Tomb
04-22-2005, 01:23 PM
Command lines using Dbpoweramp or just using the command line to convert one or more wav files without the converter?

If you open any codec using the command prompt you will find the help file. For example opening the command prompt and then typing C:\your directory\lame.exe (or other codec) will open up the basic help with some having instructions on how to delve further. Examples on the codec useage are generally given as well. Have a read then give it a try - you could experiment using lame via the generic CLI codec for starters.

milfzor
08-05-2005, 02:45 AM
when i encode my audio to lossless, its SPECIFICALLY for archiving, i dont really care how long it takes to encode a cd to whatever lossless format...and ive been using .la for a little bit now, it happens to compress the best *though admittidly it does take a while* personally, id still be interested if a plugin specifically for .la was made........

LtData
08-05-2005, 07:13 AM
As I said, you can get the "Generic CLI Codec" and download the .la encoder .exe and point the "Generic CLI Codec" at the .exe and give it the command line options you want and encode that way.

milfzor
08-05-2005, 02:46 PM
yea, i guess so...just would be nice to have it have some more "offical" support, like a quick frontend with the option for regular or high level compression...ive already got it set up for myself, but i know that there are probably a few people out there that arent too good with command lines, or in some cases havent used them at all...also for some reason, i cant get dbpoweramp to accept .la files ..i.e. right click to convert them to a differant format....i can convert stuff TO .la, but not from it, heck i even can get it to convert directly from a cd (i had a SMALL problem before, had to convert to wav first...but i figured out what i was doing wrong.

LtData
08-05-2005, 03:43 PM
Note that the Generic CLI Support will only encode the files. This is why you cannot decode them. If you can find either a Winamp decoder or a DirectShow filter for the files, you can use either the Winamp Input Adapter or the DirectShow Decoder to have dMC decode your .la files.

milfzor
08-06-2005, 02:36 AM
Note that the Generic CLI Support will only encode the files. This is why you cannot decode them. If you can find either a Winamp decoder or a DirectShow filter for the files, you can use either the Winamp Input Adapter or the DirectShow Decoder to have dMC decode your .la files.

And this is why i want a codec for dbpoweramp :D A Little more explaining...basically there IS no directshow filter for .la so that means i cant convert them AT ALL without going back to .wav....there IS a built in GUI for .la files when you install the codec for playback, and it does include a winamp plugin as well...its just that you cant really do anything besides convert to and from .la with that one...and i perfer the "swiss army knife" of audio tools rather than have to run a bunch of differant programs to do the same thing. I did give the directshow filter a run anyhow, just to be sure, but it was a no go....

xoas
08-06-2005, 10:13 AM
and it does include a winamp plugin as well...
Then you might be able to use the dB WinAmp Plug-in Input Adapter codec to play or convert .la files. Admittedly, this would not allow encoding to .la.

Best wishes,
Bill

milfzor
08-06-2005, 12:27 PM
FREAKING AWESOME...i wasnt even aware of the winamp plugin...that thing is amazing :) you guys ROCK........i personally have no need now for a .la plugin.....i can convert stuff to and from .la at will without any other programs needed now and no more need to convert to wav first.....

LtData
08-06-2005, 12:31 PM
*cough*
If you can find either a Winamp decoder or a DirectShow filter for the files, you can use either the Winamp Input Adapter or the DirectShow Decoder to have dMC decode your .la files.
*cough* :D

xoas
08-06-2005, 01:12 PM
LtData-
you guys ROCK........
Well he DID say guys (plural)!

milfzor
08-21-2005, 11:59 PM
the only thing about this, though, is first off its not exactly the most user friendly thing to set up (its not by any means HARD either though) and you cant do anything like select between regular compression and high compression levels...other than that, been using it since i posted last, and its working great.

xoas
08-22-2005, 06:58 AM
first off its not exactly the most user friendly thing to set up (its not by any means HARD either though)
Yes.
and you cant do anything like select between regular compression and high compression levels...other than that, been using it since i posted last, and its working great.
Thanks for the report/feedback. Not all WinAMP plug-ins will work with the dB WinAMP Plug-In Decoder so it is tremendously useful to let us know when things work or when they don't and any limitations. I would assume that the WinAMP Codec, operating in WinAMP, has the same limitation(?).

Best wishes,
Bill

LtData
08-22-2005, 08:05 AM
Xoas, I think the compression level is referring to the encoder via the "Generic CLI Encoder".

xoas
08-22-2005, 12:13 PM
:o *cough* :o :o
Sorry about that.
Bill