MPIO FL100 XP problem

[Killgore]

All,

I have loaded the MPIO software and then installed the latest MPIO Sveta drivers and the music conversion takes place but when I go to the FL100 to play the file nothing happens.

I have the same setup on Win ME and everything is fine. To prove it was an XP issue I loaded it on my laptop that is XP and it also has the issue.

Ive tried un-installing everything with no luck, also once the files are transfered MPIO software will no longer work. It has to be uninstalled and re-installed in order to see the FL-100.and after the new install the drives om the FL-100 have to be formatted and the player reset.

Has anyone had this issue?

[Spoon]

Try this, take an mp3 file - upload it to the fl100 in Sveta Explorer (mpio icon on desktop), then copy it back to the PC (to a different folder), does it play ok on the PC? does it play ok on the mpio?

[Killgore]

OK, I tried an MP3 file and it worked on the FL100. I then uploaded to a different Folder on the PC and it also played.
However I want to note that I have to close and re-open MPIO in order to upload the file back to the PC. otherwise I recieve an error.
When converting my .APE files they are loaded to the FL-100 but they don't play.

After performing the task you requested I tried to convert my .APE file again and this time they played however if I upload a file to the FL-100 and then try to upload another file, I have to close the MPIO app and re-open it again first.

Using my Win Me PC and mapping a drive to the Music folder were the .APE files are works like a charm.The only common problem with both PC's is that I can not create new folders on the FL-100

After testing the other apps like DMC File selector and the Music Converter these Apps work just fine sending files to the FL-100.The issue is only the Sveta App. So this is not that big of a deal. I can create the Folders with the Mpio Manager.

Thank You for the Response

[Spoon]

Sveta Explorer by default will just send the files 'as is' there is an 'audio' option that can set a compression type (select either mp3 or wma), I think it is this that is causing the problem.

[Killgore]

Ok I seen The Post you had with Fairyliquidizer back in December and January and I feel almost as thick as him. So the creating new folder issue is solved.

For the rest, I did have audio set to MP3 Lame. but as of right now everything has started functioning perfectly. (I guess I'm holding my mouth open the right way!)

Thanks again Spoon! I love this software! I'll be more than happy to register my Apps.

:D

[Unregistered]

Hi,

I have a problem under XP as well, but it is different.

Although I added the device successfully, it is not recognized when Sveta P.A. is running.. FL100 is connected and in USB mode...

Any Idea?

Joe

[Spoon]

Open Sveta Explorer (mpio Icon on Desktop) then please post the contents of:

C:\Program Files\illustrate\dbpoweramp\Sveta-log.txt

[Unregistered]

Here is the content of LogFile.
Looks like there was no problem, but there is...

---> Searching Config for Device Name
Seaching For 'MPIO FL100' Comparing Against 'MPIO FL100': Match Found! - Internal Device Name 'MPIO FL100'
<--- Search Config Match Found
Initializing 'C:\PROGRAMME\DBPOWERAMP\Sveta\Devices\mpio.dll'
Opening MPIO '': Created COM Object Sucess
Getting Device: Finding Device: Found
Match Found
Getting Storage Locations
---> Getting Track Listing
<--- Got Track Listing
---> Getting Storage Location Usage
<--- Got Storage Location Usage
Freeing MPIO Objects: Freed

BR. Joe

Open Sveta Explorer (mpio Icon on Desktop) then please post the contents of:

C:\Program Files\illustrate\dbpoweramp\Sveta-log.txt

[Unregistered]

One more thing:

Even the Firmware (1.32) of the FL100 is recognized, but anyway
the device is not opened for copying files..

Open Sveta Explorer (mpio Icon on Desktop) then please post the contents of:

C:\Program Files\illustrate\dbpoweramp\Sveta-log.txt

[Unregistered]

Okay, I made it running. Was a bit tricky.

It only works when I install MPIO manager in addition to
SVETA. Probably MPIO must be installed AFTER Sveta.

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One more thing:

Even the Firmware (1.32) of the FL100 is recognized, but anyway
the device is not opened for copying files..

[Spoon]

Thanks for the info, some drivers must be updated - I will look into it.

[Unregistered]

Does anyone know what size multimedia card can go in the fl100 128mb player? I read somewhere the most the device would recognize was 256mb's. Though it would be great to put a 512mb card in it, I found a place to purchase the panasonic sd really inexpensively. Any help would be appreciated.

[Unregistered]

I have a 512MB SD card in my fl100. I'm glad I found your question after, not before, buying the card because it would probably have scared me off. The card works without problem. (I'm using the latest versions of mpio's own software).
Colin

[sktn77a]

It will take 1Gb cards too.

Keith

[Vuillard]

Keith

Sorry to be a pest but can you confirm for sure that the 1Gb card works in the MPIO FL100? According to the FAQ at MPIO the maximum is 512Mb. I would vastly prefer to get a 1Gb card but if it does not work it would be a waste.

Regards
Vuillard

[qwecom]

Yes, you can use 1GB SD/MMC cards. I've been using one since the beginning. This is a player that you "Love to Hate". When (or perhaps if) you get your music to download on it, it's a no-nonsense great little device.

I wipped my memory, and have spent about 16 hours (yeah for real) trying to load songs back onto it. I currently have about 627 WMA/MP3's on my 1GB card in 6 folders (42hour & 55 minutes). My internal memory is currently blank (because I'm having a terrible time getting the darn thing to work!).

Because I listen to this in the car, I tend to encode my audio at 2 pass 48 or 64-kbit WMA at 44hz or MP3 Lame Variable bitrate 16-64 or 16-80kbit 22,050hz at a few notches up from minimal quality. My average song size is about 1.5 to 2.5mb. It's decent when combined with road noise. Especially since this is directly encoded from origional sources (rather than re-encoded from old MP3's). The 1980's and early 1990's music is fairly low bitrate, and newer hip-hop tends to be much bigger (to handle bass and imaging)

From 16 recent hours (and a good 20 previous hours) of simply trying to upload and download to this device, I can share some unqualified insights. I've done a lot of testing via trial and error. I won't call these facts, but they are well-qualified theories:

1) The MPIO Manager hates USB 2.0. No two ways about it. It was buggy, picky, and flakey on USB1.2, but it's unstable as heck with USB 2.0.

2) The SD/MMC card format is Fat16 (with a few weirdisms). You can generally mount the cards on a multimedia card reader with a few very bizzare exceptions. I'll discuss them below.

3) I've had the best luck when I've formatted my 1GB SD/MMC card using the MPIO Manager. And, when I've created my new folders with the manager. (I don't know why, but they show up corrupted if I create them via the desktop interface from the multi media reader). So, format and create your directory structure using the director. You may lockup several times while doing this. Just move really slow. Perhaps go into each blank folder after you create it, then come back out. (That seems to minimize crashing... but it could be voo-doo logic).

4) The file limitations in the directories seem to be based on the number of characters in the file names rather than the size of the files. I was under the impression that you could only have 128mb or perhaps 128 files per sub directory. I did a LOT of trial and error. As near as I can figure, you can get 128 files in a directory if they are at or shorter than 8dot3 file names. Luckily, you can see the tag info when your files are playing (though now when browsering). So, getting a program like MP3 File Renaming utility like NameWiz from SoftByteLabs.com or MP3 Book Helper (http://mp3bookhelper.sourceforge.net/) to rename your files seems like a necessity.

5) The MPIO player seems to like WMA 9.1 files slightly better than Mp3s when uploading using MPIO Director. (At least, it locks up less frequently).

6) I've all but abandoned my internal memory. I have played around with the logo editor (probalby one of the 3 people who have ever done so), and it's interesting. Unless you need to read Korean titles, you can delete the internal font, and free up another 2mb of memory.

7) Battery life when using an SD/MMC Card seems to be about 4-8 hours. I use rechargable mAh 800 batteries in it. The power indicator always seems to read 2 bars. That's cool though. I can carry 5 of them in a pouch without any problems. It's still great for trips.

So, what have I learned? You may need to disconnect and reconnect a couple dozen times to upload files via the manager. If you format the card and create your directories using Directory, you can mount your SD/MMC card and drag files (recommend 7-letter + Extension) onto the card. It seems to hate USB 2.0. And, the max number of files seems related to 8dot3 file name length.

It's a cool device, that is as annoying as sin to load and generally a pleasure to use for playback. I've though about dunking it in water a couple of dozen times so I could trade it in on extended warrenty, but that's really not warrented. I prefer to think of it like a puzzle box. I've enjoyed the extreme challenge of loading music on it. Now, if only I can fill my last 128Mb of itnernal memory!

I hope this helps. If you can confirm any of these observatrions or contribute your own, I'd greatly appreciate it. This device is irritating, but acceptable. It replaced a Rio Cali 256 which was quite nice except that when the USB Burned out, Rio was unreachable for support. This was one of only two-three choices as a replacement as my qualifications were:

1) Ability to use Expandable SD/MMC Flash memory
2) Use of AAA or AA Batteries (no burn-out, built-in, non rechargables)
3) Ability to play low bit-rates (For Audio Books on MP3)

There aren't many devices like this. I just got a Nokia 6600 Phone and UltraMP3 Amp. It can also use a "1Gb MMC" Card, but after buying the cassett addapter for the 32/15ths proprietary plug, I discovered HORRENDOUS fiedility issues. It's a terrible MP3 player, though it is technically in stereo. Oh well. Looks like I'll keep my MPIO.

[chardill]

Could anyone give me some guidance on how to purchase the usb cord for the FL100. My daughter thought it would be fun to use it in the pool. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks John

[sktn77a]

Not sure what you are wanting to do...... The USB cord will allow you to transfer songs from your computer to the player but has nothing to do with playback. Did you loose your USB cord? If so you can get a replacement from MPIO/Digitalway, TDK or Virgin. Check their web sites - they are about $15 plus shipping.

Keith

[jt2ma71]

hey guys, as you can see im a noob here lol. I have a mpio fl100, and im having problems with the stupid crappy mpio manager 2, so i uninstalled it to find out they dont even have it on the mpio site anymore :blush: so i finally found version 1.8 on my computer i had saved awhile back and installed it, i then tried to get the sveta program to recognize my fl100, but it wont recognize it, i clicked add device but it says theres nothing connected. Could someone please help me out. I have upgraded to the newest firmware which is version 1.35

[Spoon]

You also need their mpio manager installed.