Drivers for Philips HDD060

[Unregistered]

Since the software (Digital Media Manager) for my player is horrible, I want to use Sveta Portable Audio.
Though, I can't find any drivers for the HDD060.
Can I use any of the drivers there is, or will it be a release of the drivers for my player?

Alex

[Spoon]

Does it appear as a drive in Explorer?

[Unregistered]

Yes, it does.

[Spoon]

The 'Generic Removable Device' driver will work, have a look in the Beta section of the forum in a few days time, a new Sveta with a much improved Removable driver is about to be released.

[Spoon]

Looked into it, it will not work because the Phillips hdd060 is like the iPod, it needs a database file to be updated, so only their software can upload files.

[Unregistered]

Ok. I see.
Even a specific driver for the player won't make transfering possible with other programs, for example Sveta?

[Spoon]

It would need me to write a driver that can update the database, all this is dependant on numbers (of people wishing support for this player).

[Unregistered]

I see. Well. You know my vote is on the HDD060. :) I guess I don't have to post a reply in your new thread.
Thanks for all help. I believe time will show if I can get rid of my present software!

[Unregistered]

I'm here to throw in my vote for Philips HDD support, too! I have an HDD120 but the driver would probably be the samer or similar.

I was so frustrated to get this home and find out that it won't play music files simply transferred to its drive... and that my favorite music app doesn't have support for it. :-( ('Course Philips says the device won't support music transfers to the drive because of DRM.... I guess just another device BROKEN by DRM. It wouldn't matter too music if the software they threw in were half decent.)

Oops, sorry to be on the soapbox! Anyway, love the software and would love to see my Philips supported!

Thanks,

Joe

[Unregistered]

Iv'e just bought one of these and would also love drag'n'drop software. If you could find the time to develop a driver it'd be brilliant!

Cheers,

dirobesh

[Unregistered]

Please tell me where to find the driver for my Philips HDD060???
davidtaillant@yahoo.fr

[Unregistered]

Heres another vote for a driver for the Philips HDD100!! (which is the same as the hdd120...just smaller) GREAT device but CRAPPY software!!! i would PAY to have new software that actually WORKED! Thanx for ANY help you can give :)

[Unregistered]

me too. i also need a driver for the hdd060. the sofware is dreadfull. cheers.

[Unregistered]

also in need of better drivers for my hdd060, its a pain in the ass with the stupid DMM

[Unregistered]

me too, I hate DMM!!!!

[Unregistered]

Yes, me too. Just bought one (HDD060) and I cant believe how crap the software is. I spent weeks noting the Artist and Album name for each of my tracks and the bloody DMM software doesnt recognise it!?

[Unregistered]

me toooo! :)

I've surfed through the web many times, searching for an alternative for this crap, called "DMM" ...
If somebody write a software/driver which works userfriendly and without bugs, I would bought this tool at once!

best wishes
from germany

w.h.

[escobar]

I really hope you'll start supporting the Philips HDD060, as it's a great player, but it's let down by really slow and non-functional software!

I would be glad to help beta-test a driver for transferring files, and of course pay for it. Just contact me at ab@andreb.com if you need a beta-tester :D

[w.h.]

I would test for you as well!

It's exactly what escobar saying: player :thumbup: ... software :thumbdown

[Unregistered]

Yes, a driver for the HDD060 would be great, making obsolete the **** DMM

[Unregistered]

Is there a way to replace the DMM ?

It seems that one has to copy the mp3 files to
\_system\Media\Audio
rename them somhow
and update the
MyDB
which claims "** This file contains an SQLite 2.1 database **"
and seems to hold the ID3 tags and the playlists
does someone know howto ?

[Unregistered]

hy , I'm french and i have the same matter with my hdd060. The DMM is horrible, it's like a windows' version of 1945.... I want an other way to transfert my tracks on the hdd060. The DMM copy files in _system/media/audio but they are modified. I download the 1.3version but tere is no differences. if someone had a solution;

jailespieskipu@hotmail.com

Thanks

[Unregistered]

hy , I'm french and i have the same matter with my hdd060. The DMM is horrible, it's like a windows' version of 1945.... I want an other way to transfert my tracks on the hdd060. The DMM copy files in _system/media/audio but they are modified. I download the 1.3version but tere is no differences. if someone had a solution;

jailespieskipu@hotmail.com

I have send an e-mail to phillips, if many people do that maybye phillips will react. do this ! ! http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/dcbint?screen=mail&lang=eng&s=ccc

[w.h.]

allready done.. but philips just answering standard-crap like "thanks for your email. we are always thankful for constuctive criticism... bla bla bla" ...

if there will be a driver for hdd060 (and the other hdd's from philips), than they can use their dmm at home. i wouldn't use it any longer.

[Spoon]

You should be glad to hear I have a HDD060 on order, I will take a look, it should be possible as long as the uploaded mp3 files are not super encrypted somehow...

[Unregistered]

Excellent news!!!

dirobesh

[w.h.]

That sounds wonderful.
Let's hope Philips didn't made their encryption to hard.

[Unregistered]

Looks like this could be turned into a winamp Plugin they already have a iPOD plugin thats actively being developed when you install that plugin you can upload and download from the device , the ipod refers to a database file just like the Pillips HDD does .Yes the Software sucks the encryption shouldn't be to hard someone has made a program so you can upload from the HDD100/120 already with all the ID3 tags in place .you can even listen and manipulate the files if you look in the HDD060's _systemMediaAudio folder through Internet explorer .The only problem I see with a program like this is when Phillips tries to block any other 3rd party programs with firmware upgrades .

http://dawuss.student.utwente.nl/~public1/dl/HDDEasyCopy.zip

http://mlipod.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=about

[Unregistered]

Great news!

I will be watching this topic also. The HDD060 is a good player, only the DMM is so bloated and slow, it looks like it's been written in Java or something...

E_Motion

[Unregistered]

Just got the replace of a HDD060 today(the first one was faulty) and I was surprised and upset with the draft programming of the software even the 1.3 release.I will definately be looking for the release of a better software.The IPOD plugin didnot work on HDD060.

Hope for a miracle for this little guy to become useful

[w.h.]

Looks like this could be turned into a winamp Plugin they already have a iPOD plugin thats actively being developed when you install that plugin you can upload and download from the device , the ipod refers to a database file just like the Pillips HDD does .Yes the Software sucks the encryption shouldn't be to hard someone has made a program so you can upload from the HDD100/120 already with all the ID3 tags in place .you can even listen and manipulate the files if you look in the HDD060's _systemMediaAudio folder through Internet explorer .The only problem I see with a program like this is when Phillips tries to block any other 3rd party programs with firmware upgrades .

ARGH ... if they have allready developed a driver for hdd100 and 120... why they havn't developed a solution for the hdd060 ?
well.. a useable software would be the last thing that i can enjoy my player...

[Unregistered]

does anybody have the ability to actually send me the original software for the hdd120 cos i dont have it, (bought of sum dude on street for cheap) and all i want is to actually eb able to use it...

badassmothauknow@hotmail.com.... my msn

badassmothauknow'yahoo.co.uk... my yahoo.. it woudl eb greta if sumone could transfer teh file to me

cheers

[Unregistered]

Is there a way to replace the DMM ?

It seems that one has to copy the mp3 files to
\_system\Media\Audio
rename them somhow
and update the
MyDB
which claims "** This file contains an SQLite 2.1 database **"
and seems to hold the ID3 tags and the playlists
does someone know howto ?


Wow, I found something interesting today: when you open the MydB file with SQLite Explorer (found at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sqlite/files/SqliteExplorer/), you can see the build structure and the content of it. It seems that it is just a database with all ID3 tags af the songs on the HDD060.

Also some info about programming in C/.. to create an SQLite database can be found at www.sqlite.org

Can someone use this info to make a replacement for DMM? I'm really interested!


Dean

[Unregistered]

ARGH ... if they have allready developed a driver for hdd100 and 120... why they havn't developed a solution for the hdd060 ?
well.. a useable software would be the last thing that i can enjoy my player...
just a quick note on that comment: The software referred to in that post only REMOVES the files from the HDD to any computer. As of now it will NOT upload music to the device (although he is currently working on a version that can) Maybe Spoon can collaborate with him or exchange usefull information. I am anxiously awaiting the day when i can throw DMM out for GOOD! im very gratefull to see ANY type of new software :)

[Unregistered]

Looks like programing thru winamp would be the best solution theres also a plugin that detects removable USB drives called gUSB that gives widows explorer like funtionality to winamp so you can at least transfer music onto the Phillips HDD from winamp like from home to work or vica versa, you just cant listen to it thru the player so you have to transfer it by the stupid lame DMM if you want to listen on the HDD .The winamp Ipod plugin works by acessing ipods database file and it can upload and download files from the device it can also format the Ipod so a bit of messing around with these plugins could be our solution without the whole overhead of creating a GUI .

gUSB
http://www.winamp.com/plugins/details.php?id=139125

[w.h.]

just a quick note on that comment: The software referred to in that post only REMOVES the files from the HDD to any computer. As of now it will NOT upload music to the device (although he is currently working on a version that can) Maybe Spoon can collaborate with him or exchange usefull information. I am anxiously awaiting the day when i can throw DMM out for GOOD! im very gratefull to see ANY type of new software :)

oh... ok :)

about winamp:
well that sounds goo, too.
I'll take anything but not dmm :)

[Unregistered]

I'm sure it's a stupid question, but....
Is there a way to transform a USB 1,1 device into a 2,0 one?
It's a little bit slow....

[Unregistered]

Yes, me too. Just bought one (HDD060) and I cant believe how crap the software is. I spent weeks noting the Artist and Album name for each of my tracks and the bloody DMM software doesnt recognise it!?

[Unregistered]

yeah buy a IPod and you have Winamp support and USB 2

Seriously no you cant change the device from USB 1,1 to 2

[Unregistered]

hey. heres a great site for help with your hdd100,120, or 60.

http://forums.designtechnica.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=93

its a great site for HDD owners to complain and help eachother out until a new DMM is available! even though people there are still trying to find a software replacement, its still a great site for other technical problems.

[w.h.]

@spoon:
has the player allready arrived ? ;)

[Spoon]

No, there is a language issue (the guy I am getting it off is French) - should do soon.

[Unregistered]

Wow, I found something interesting today: when you open the MydB file with SQLite Explorer (found at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sqlite/files/SqliteExplorer/), you can see the build structure and the content of it. It seems that it is just a database with all ID3 tags af the songs on the HDD060.

Also some info about programming in C/.. to create an SQLite database can be found at www.sqlite.org

Can someone use this info to make a replacement for DMM? I'm really interested!


Dean

The question is, does anyone know what hash it's using to create the new file names? If we could make sure we use the same algo (needed so we don't have collisions with DMM's names, although I wonder if it will work without changing names...) then this will be easy...

Also, we could try to re-write the entire firmware, using maybe the Rockbox project as a base, although that requires much more work.

I'm looking into what I might be able to do myself. If anything I may be able to write a simple graphical interface that will replace DMM...

[Unregistered]

Hi guys,

I have created small program which cleans HDD060 database, finds all *.mp3 files stored in your HDD060 and updates the DB.
I'm not used to programming GUI, so my tool does not have any, although it would improve it's performance (HDD060 DB would not be created from scratch, when you add only one mp3 file). I can't promise any imrovements (except some bug fixing) , but I can let you use it.
I guess you are interested, but I don't have any web page where I could publish it. Could somebody of you publish it?

-- Saniel

[Unregistered]

Hi guys,

I have created small program which cleans HDD060 database, finds all *.mp3 files stored in your HDD060 and updates the DB.
I'm not used to programming GUI, so my tool does not have any, although it would improve it's performance (HDD060 DB would not be created from scratch, when you add only one mp3 file). I can't promise any imrovements (except some bug fixing) , but I can let you use it.
I guess you are interested, but I don't have any web page where I could publish it. Could somebody of you publish it?

-- Saniel

Sure, can you for now email it to: temfate@hotmail.com

I'll get it online...

[Unregistered]

try a winamp plugin then you dont need the GUI just use the winamp SDK

heres a disscussion thread over on winamp could end up being a sourceforge project like the winamp ipod plugin and creative Nomad plugin.

http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=181910

[Unregistered]

Hi I have the HDD100 Philips MP3 Player and I am also looking for a replacement for the DMM. I don't know how close the DMM for the Hdd100 is to the Hdd060 but there must be some similiarities. I know the one for the Hdd100 is also based on a database of sorts as I have putsed around alittle bit in it, but I didn't really know what I was looking for. So my question is, can anyone point me in the right direction as to how to make a program to songs on the player without using the DMM software that came with the player? I am willing to learn how to do some new code, but I do have a little previous experience, I just need a push in the right direction. It sounds like one of you guys made some sort of program to replace the DMM could you give me some info on how you made it? Thanks, I would be glad for replys to either here or my email:

hjgrandy@usxchange.net

[Unregistered]

[QUOTE=Unregistered]Hi I have the HDD100 Philips MP3 Player and I am also looking for a replacement for the DMM. I don't know how close the DMM for the Hdd100 is to the Hdd060......QUOTE]
unfortunetely there is NO replacement for DMM yet for either the HDD060 OR the HDD100/120 :(:( The only things available are just limited tools that copy music FROM the HDD, not to it. Beleive me, as SOON as a ANY program is available that replaces DMM it will spread sooooo fast that you will definetely hear about it!! EVERYONE is looking for a replacement! lol...so if YOU happen to come up with a replacement..u will definetely be regarded as a Hero :-p

[Unregistered]

hi there i got a huge problem, yesterday mi hdd060 sent me this stupid problem (!) in the screen which is supossed 2 be some file system error that would be fixed by only connecting it and using the dmm, but dmm wouldnt do anything so i entered windows explorer and scandisked it and it found tons of probs in the disk, after like 20 mins of scanning the pc just crashed so i restarted and everything and now i connect my hdd and it wont show anything in the screen but the philips logo, and pc wont detect a thing, i think some info in the disk was damaged with the crash or sumthing, any advice? or is this thing completely dead? it wont show anything but the damn log, wont even start, maybe a way to connect the disk directly to the pc and scandisk again¿, anyone's done this? i did it with my archos jukebox but i guess this micro hd is way 2 different, thanks 4 any help

[hitec]

i need alos another software for the hdd060
please make a driver for sveta, the DMM from philips like an software from the year 1925
where can i get the software which update the sql-file on the hdd060

[Unregistered]

Just adding to my voice to the calls for software to replace the DMM.

I'm sure it would be extremely popular.

[Unregistered]

i need sw for hdd060 , to download mp3 files

[w.h.]

Anything new till now? Did you receive the HDD?
I just feel I lost interest in using my mp3-player just because I can't be bothered to use DMM... HEEEEEELLLLLLP :o

[Unregistered]

Will Fischer the developer of the iPod plugin for Winamp said if some HDD 060 users would 'donate' him a unit he would develop a winamp plugin for the HDD .Anyone interested contact Will via the Winamp forums where he is a moderator .

http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=132337&perpage=40&pagenumber=14

[Unregistered]

Does anyone know how similiar the DMM for the HDD100 is to the HDD060?
Thanks,

Ryan

[Temfate]

Hi guys, I'm the one who asked the unregistered users to email me the software so I can post it... And he DID email me a file!! Now I have not tested it, so please post some comments if it works etc...

My web page:
http://home.comcast.net/~foglem/
The file:
http://home.comcast.net/~foglem/UpdateHDD060DB.zip

[Unregistered]

Just downloaded and tried the program - works superbly! MUCH better than the DMM software. Thanks for an excellent bit of kit :-)))

dirobesh

[E_Motion]

Nice work mate!

DMM goes off my system right now!
It works perfectly!

Now, can anyone automate this procedure? Build a nice (non-java!) GUI? I wish I could code that myself, I would do it, but I can't :(

Anyway, my compliments mate, i guess this will make you the hero of every HDD060 owner :D

[Unregistered]

How easily can this be converted to work for the HDD100?

Thanks

[Unregistered]

How easily can this be converted to work for the HDD100?

Thanks

My guess would be this program will work with any player that uses DMM. All it does basically is make the file database for you.

[Unregistered]

Well I don't think it would work for the HDD100 right away without any changes, as the file structure for the HDD100 is different than the HDD060.

[Unregistered]

Well I don't think it would work for the HDD100 right away without any changes, as the file structure for the HDD100 is different than the HDD060.

Ah okay, didn't know that. Guessed it would be the same, that the HDD100 just had more capacity.

But anyway, it shouldn't take too long either. The basics stay the same.

[Unregistered]

Great piece of kit for the hdd060 there.. but I think that I along with most of the world would be EXTREMELY grateful if you could modify it for the hdd100!! Just adding my support there.

[Unregistered]

From what I have seen on the HDD100 it doesn't use the same type of database as the HDD060. It has a .dat file with what looks like the file path, track name, track album, track artist, the scrambled filename, and the genre. I'm not sure what to open this file in so I use just notepad, but it puts in odd characters that make no sense, so I clearly need a different program. some of the other file types are .hdr and .idx does anyone know what kind of files these are, I've tried to look them up but haven't gotten much of anything.
If anyone wants a copy of the files that are on the HDD100 I can make a copy for you.


Thanks

[Spoon]

Philips driver for Sveta is currently under development, should be about 2 weeks.

It would be helpful if people could send me their 'MyDB' files, also state which model player you have, email to:

http://www.dbpoweramp.com/email.htm

[Unregistered]

Please do this for the hdd100/hdd120...a lot more people have this model rather than the hdd060. Thanks for all your hardwork!

[Unregistered]

Hi Guys,

I have created small web page for the tool "Update HDD060 DB".
I call it shortly DHAT (The DMM Hater's Tool) :-))

http://dhat.webpark.cz

If somebody can send me directory structure and DB file from HDD100 I can try to add support also for this hardware.

-- saniel@post.cz

[w.h.]

dhat doesn't work ... after using the tool no titles are longer shon in my hdd... i'm glad that i've created an update of my myDB-file before testing...

[Unregistered]

DHAT does work you have to load the MP3s in the root directory and delete any files in the _system/media/audio diectory .So then you basicly have a clean HDD then you have to run DMM once to create a nicw new clean non DRM data base. DHAT will not work with wma files at the moment.DHAT does not change the file names like DMM does and leaves them intact so you have to reload all the MP3s, oh well better than one by one with DMM .Well now I have a nice organised HDD and can drag and drop music folders from windows explorer or winamp with the gUSB plugin .

http://www.winamp.com/plugins/details.php?id=139125

Now my HDD has beome useful and my wife can transfer songs from work becuse she doesnt have to load the stupid DMM at work ......good work saniel .Phillips made a big mistake creating crap software and software like DHAT stoped all thier DRM attempts and will come back to huant them .

[Unregistered]

Hi!
I don't know english, so I have some problems...
Wath is the root directory?
Can I put the mp3 in the hdd where I want? alsa in a directory?
thanks

[w.h.]

oh.. ok.. now I understand. :o

I will try it as soon I'm back at home.
If it works, this would be heaven =)

---------

as an addition:
nothing aggainst sveta... a tool where I haven't to do anything else than drag and drop the files into my players-root would be much better...
but for now we have to celebrate, that DMM is not longer necessary :)

[Unregistered]

Hi!
I don't know english, so I have some problems...
Wath is the root directory?
Can I put the mp3 in the hdd where I want? alsa in a directory?
thanks

Root Directory = F:\

Yes you can put the files where you like ,personally I would avoid putting them in the _system directory as Phillips tries feebly to hide it .

[w.h.]

YES! DHAT works!

Bye Bye DMM! =)

The only thing is that the playlist is empty... but you can enter the soungs over albums and/or interprets.

Many thanks

p.s. looking foward to the sveta sollution.

[Unregistered]

Know it works very well!!!!...but I've just a little prroblem...
DHAT have a problem with a File:
In the hdd, the name of the song doesn't appear and the hdd 060 crash every time it play that song...

any idea to fix the bug?

[w.h.]

there are some other problems...

some titels appear with "no title" and, as I said, not in the playlist.
I thought this isn't a problem, but it is...

is it possible to use the filename as song-title and the folder-name as playlist-folder-entry?

If not... well ... that's a point why I hate DMM .... :blush:

The problem with the crashing I have, too. Unfortunatly I don't know why this error occures :(

[saniel]

Please, send me some file which makes problems. I'll fix it.

Thanks for help. I did only some basic tests and then decided to fix bugs when I find some during daily usage of DHAT. Then I saw people screaming for substitute of DMM so I have published DHAT (however without intensive testing)

-- Saniel (saniel@post.cz)

[Unregistered]

Ok if you add play lists like .M3U or .PLS with DAHT it comes up as ###### and crashes the HDD so dont add playlists to the HDD till its fixed .

[Unregistered]

The DHAT program is really great! Thaks for the developer.

Is it possible to creat a new firmware or edit the old ones? It would be fun!

I thought about opening a webpage and/or forum for philips hdd060. What do you think about it??

[Unregistered]

Damn Dhat doesnt transfer WMA, any chance of WMA support being introduced in the near future?

[w.h.]

why not.. thats a good idea..

there is much to do depending on usability, so I think there will be much of work =)
just because so many people are searching for an alternative to dmm.

perhaps I can help you creating this website... Well I havn't so much experience with the implementation of forums, but with webdesign. The only thing wich might be a problem is time, but I think a website with a few nav-points shouldn't be a big task.

[Unregistered]

I have a problem without a solution. DHAT does not detect all my mp3's on the jukebox. I can's see any difference in the files. What could be the limitation?

[w.h.]

perhaps the filename is to long? 255 chars is the limit...

[Unregistered]

ARE some of your files still in the hidden folder they are encoded with DMMs tag and not a regular MP3 tag .

[Unregistered]

Would new software for the HDD100 solve the track order problem?

[w.h.]

well, I think you have to enter the track no. into the id3-tag of the mp3 or set numbers before the title than it works. I don't trust any updates of philips.. perhaps the comming firmware-updates would avert the use of tools like dhat...

[Unregistered]

The HDD 100 uses a different database some seem to think its microsoft Access
. I think as more programers ect get involved with this project there will be more open source development on the firm ware and software and we wont have to depend on phillips for firmware or software updates .This is funny from a firm who just released the Fastest DVD burner .

[Unregistered]

Im sorry but DHAT sucks more than DMM, no GUI, no playlists, no WMA and it can ruin ur database and make the rest of the songs all screwed in the player.

DMM might be crap coz its slow, ugly and it doesnt allow to drag and drop in Windows explorer but since its desgined for the player. Its the only thing you can use if you want all of the options available.

And DHAT is the only alternative it is quicker but it needs lots of developing still, bug fixes etc. maybe some kind of GUI.

Has anybody found any alternative firmware for the HDD060 that will remove the need for DMM.

All that really needs to be done is it get rid of the database system and have the mp3/wmas play without the DB. I know it sounds a lot easier than it will be to implement but it will fix the main problem, as opposed to a alternative to DMM, which IMO is'nt as functional.

[Unregistered]

Hi Guys,

I have created small web page for the tool "Update HDD060 DB".
I call it shortly DHAT (The DMM Hater's Tool) :-))

http://dhat.webpark.cz

If somebody can send me directory structure and DB file from HDD100 I can try to add support also for this hardware.

-- saniel@post.cz

[saniel]

Im sorry but DHAT sucks more than DMM, no GUI, no playlists, no WMA and it can ruin ur database and make the rest of the songs all screwed in the player.

DMM might be crap coz its slow, ugly and it doesnt allow to drag and drop in Windows explorer but since its desgined for the player. Its the only thing you can use if you want all of the options available.

And DHAT is the only alternative it is quicker but it needs lots of developing still, bug fixes etc. maybe some kind of GUI.

Has anybody found any alternative firmware for the HDD060 that will remove the need for DMM.

All that really needs to be done is it get rid of the database system and have the mp3/wmas play without the DB. I know it sounds a lot easier than it will be to implement but it will fix the main problem, as opposed to a alternative to DMM, which IMO is'nt as functional.

Well, you're right, DHAT needs lot of development. I've created the first version which is out just to fulfill my needs and I have not tested it much, because I decided to fix bugs, when I find some during my daily usage of DHAT. Than I saw lot of requests for DMM substitute on the internet and I published DHAT, so that anybody else can use it. If somebody doesn't like it, he can get back to DMM.

But I have good news for those who likes DHAT, but would like it to be faster and less buggy. I'm working on it! You can look forward to support of playlists, some other new features and much less bugs, 'cos this time I'm gonna perform lot of tests!

Regards,
Saniel (saniel@post.cz)
DHAT web: http://dhat.webpark.cz

[Unregistered]

Has anybody found any alternative firmware for the HDD060 that will remove the need for DMM.

All that really needs to be done is it get rid of the database system and have the mp3/wmas play without the DB. I know it sounds a lot easier than it will be to implement but it will fix the main problem, as opposed to a alternative to DMM, which IMO is'nt as functional.

I dont know much about programming at all, but i agree with this. How hard would it be to actually just create new firmware for the HDD100? (or 060 or 120) That would solve all the problems. It would even solve the problem of Philips releasing new Firmware that would be incompatable with any new DMM alternative. The only thing that would be "Philips" would be the actuall Hard drive player. Everything else would be open source and changeable.

[Unregistered]

I Use winamp with the gUSB plugin and can drag and drop and delete files On the DMM no problems in the Media Libary . The HDD060 comes up as a external drive in winamp with the gUSB plugin .Saniel could you turn this into a Winamp sourceforge project like ml_ipod i know there has been a bit of discussion over on thier forums about DMM . If and do you want beta testers for the new version should we email you if you want beta testers or not .

http://www.winamp.com/plugins/details.php?id=139125

[Unregistered]

Well, you're right, DHAT needs lot of development. I've created the first version which is out just to fulfill my needs and I have not tested it much, because I decided to fix bugs, when I find some during my daily usage of DHAT. Than I saw lot of requests for DMM substitute on the internet and I published DHAT, so that anybody else can use it. If somebody doesn't like it, he can get back to DMM.

But I have good news for those who likes DHAT, but would like it to be faster and less buggy. I'm working on it! You can look forward to support of playlists, some other new features and much less bugs, 'cos this time I'm gonna perform lot of tests!

Regards,
Saniel (saniel@post.cz)
DHAT web: http://dhat.webpark.cz


OK that all sounds good, what you have done can be comended you've offered the ONLY alternative to DMM.

Its just I would like to see it improve and develop further.

How about a meggae board wher people can post bug they have found?

[Unregistered]

well .. the winamp-way sounds good... only the support of playlists must still be developed.

about the firmware-thing: this would be perfect... dmm would be definitely dead =) and a open-source community would be formed.

[Unregistered]

A dev over at winamp has stated that he has been able to acess the DMM database using the winamp SDK and the ipod plugin source code and is in the process of developing a ipod plugin clone for the DMM and saniel said thet in his next release of DHAT he would support playlists so things are looking up.

[Unregistered]

Hi,

Even if this thread is titled "HDD060" and my post concerns HDD100/120, i post here ... if somebody as a better place ...

Waiting for a powerfull driver / software for definitively erase DMM, i decided to write a little tool to manage files and database for HDD 100/120 device.

You can find a first release here : http://solonweb.free.fr

Ready to receive your remarks and ideas.

Have good fun listening music ;-)

Bye

Solon
solonweb@free.fr

[Unregistered]

My hdd060 crashed after tried DHAT, I cant start a song anymore it just turns off. even after format and reset and used the old firmware.

It was a great tool until I tried to play the songs I loaded with it.

[Unregistered]

Hi there!

I've created a little synchronisation tool for the HDD060 which is also able to synchronize playlists.
However, it's a very early version - but the tool works fine for our HDD060 here :-))= - so there are some bugs to be expected.

You might try the program here:

http://www.nowecor.de/users/stephan/cpp/hdd060.html

regs,

Stephan

[Raimse]

Hi there
this is the first time I write here, but I've been reading this thread since its beginning cos I was looking for a software to replace DMM and this place looked promising.
I now use DHAT, and I gotta say what a wonderful thing! Ok, I had to erase all the songs I had on the HD cos DHAT was crashing when it tried to get the info from some of the songs that were already present, but now it works perfectly.
I had to change a little stg 'tho: placed at the root of the HD, DHAT didn't work, I had to put it in _system\media\audio... I say that just in case it might help someone having trouble
Anyway this message is just a VERY BIG THANKS to DHAT's creator.
have fun all of u
Raimse

[Unregistered]

To the guy who cant get DHAt to work did you try and upgrade the firmware from Phillips yet that may fix it .

[Unregistered]

RAIMSE did you put your MP3s in the root or a folder in the root then DAHT will work. It will still up date the database file in the hidden _system\media\audio folder .

[Unregistered]

i just want to take this time to vent some of my anger at philips for having such crappy DMM software.

!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&* to your DMM Philips! however, HDD100/120 is a beautiful device that could have been great from the beginning.

thank you for your time.

whoever makes a replacement for DMM on the HDD100/120 series will be worshipped beyond their dreams. maybe Philips will hire them to write they're future software.

[Unregistered]

The HDD 100/120 replacment has been posted here a few days ago .Your wish has been granted . If we could get all the Devs here Join a sourceforge project for the HDD and work together to create a GPLed aplication that is free of DRM and supports .ogg > What is the interest in a Sourceforge Project or has there been one set up .

HDD 100/120 Replacement tool
http://solonweb.free.fr/

[Unregistered]

I would be very interested in a project like that. It would be nice to create a nice front end for a program like the one Solon made for the HDD100. I would just need guidance to point me in the right direction to find the right development tools. I don't know how much I could do. But it would be great if lots of people joined on.

Do other people have trouble with the program for the HDD100 loading .wma's into their player, cuz everytime I try it I get this wierd error that appears to be in a different language. But to Solon, good job, it is a great start!

Thanks

Ryan

[Unregistered]

I personally think the best way to go is use Winamp for the interface like the winamp ipod support plugin written originally by Justin Frankel that is open source .Its puting itunes to shame now for Windows users anyway and a winamp clone of the iopd plugin for the DMM could be the ticket .

http://mlipod.sourceforge.net/

[Unregistered]

How do you actually install dmm?

I have followed all the process that Philips describes but whenever I try and boot DMM it says "Cannot open this file: dmm.jar".

I just wanna use the software supplied, but cant even get that to work!

Please, Please help!

[SolonBab]

Dear HDD 100/120 users,

i just update the HDD 1x0 Tool to release 0.9 !!

The new release is at the same place : http://solonweb.free.fr.

Updates are describe on the web page, but major are :

- automatic processing "restore original names" and "Update DB" with start and close HDDTool,
- drag and drop files from Windows Explorer to HDDTool to add new files,
- manage files on HDD directly from HDDTool (delete from HDD, copy/move to PC).

have fun :-)

If you have some improvement ideas, feel free to email me.

Regards,

Solon
solonweb@free.fr

[ukbootlegs]

I also have a HDD060 and would really like to use DMC/Sveta audio. Or rather I would like the missus to be able to use it.

I intend to buy an iRiver 40gb for myself. Will I be able to use DMC with that?

[Unregistered]

The I River mounts as a USB Drive in Windows Explorer so you can use the removable device driver for Sveta or GUSB in winamp .

[Unregistered]

will the new solon software play music bought online? that's what my whole collection is and i was so mad to learn DMM wouldn't play it because of DRM.

[SolonBab]

will the new solon software play music bought online? that's what my whole collection is and i was so mad to learn DMM wouldn't play it because of DRM.

Hi,

i have no such files to try this ;-) so i can't tell you.

But the HDDTool does not modify the files when transferring them to HDD and it does no controls about DRM in files for adding them to the HDD database.

If you could send me by email one of your files with DRM i could test and say the result :-)

Regards,

Solon
solonweb@free.fr

[Unregistered]

it depends on the DRM you have if you have Itunes songs for example you can strip the DRM with HYMN and this has been itergrated into the latest version of the Winamp ipod Support plugin and it does it on the fly .So it can be done and then you would need to convert the file to wma or MP3 until phillips or a 3rd party supports other formats for the firmware .

Im still in support of a Sourceforge Project that emulates the ipod plugin as the Ipod uses a database to acess files and syncs with the winamp media libary to transfer files like stephans program.Im sure if all the devs get together on this project you would see similarites in programing except for the data base issues between the HDD 0x0 and 1x0 s.

http://hymn-project.org/
http://mlipod.sourceforge.net/ (source code availible)

[Unregistered]

Hi..

I got a big Problem with the dhat 0.2 tool.
I put my MP3's (530) in the "I:\_system\media\audio" folder.
Then i start the "Update HDD060 DB.exe" from the hdd.
It open a little window where i can see that dhate find mp3 files.
But the update stops at the 14th track and closed...
There is no mp3 file with more then characters then allowed.
Whats the reason?
And now tittle is shown on my HDD.nothing...
Alex

[Unregistered]

Hi there!

I've updated my little synchronization tool ptune which is now in version 0.2
If you like, take a look at it's webpage

www.nowecor.de/users/stephan/cpp/hdd060.html

The tool allows you to synchronize a certain hard disk folder to the HDD060. It therefore reads the id3 tags of the mp3 files and also "copies" the m3u playlists in these directories to the HDD60.

In the new version I've removed some bugs, added more information output and added a feature to automatically sort playlists that are synchronized.

regs,

Stephan

[Unregistered]

To the guy who is having trouble with DAHT did you clear the MP3s that are on the device first in the audio directory also delete the myDB file then run DMM to create a new database file ,if you havnt done so already ,and then run daht.Also I found if you try and send too many files there may be a invalid id3 tag that will stop daht so the best way is album by album so at least you work out which album or folder is giving you troubles .

Matt

[Unregistered]

[QUOTE=Unregistered]it depends on the DRM you have if you have Itunes songs for example you can strip the DRM with HYMN and this has been itergrated into the latest version of the Winamp ipod Support plugin and it does it on the fly .So it can be done and then you would need to convert the file to wma or MP3 until phillips or a 3rd party supports other formats for the firmware .


i use MP3university.com i don't know what I can do with those files but i know that they are only MP3 and WMA files. i don't think there are any DRM blocks on the songs from the site, just on DMM.

maybe someone else knows?

[Unregistered]

I had a quick look at the MP3universtiy FAQ and they add drm to some files it seems so unleess you find what DRM they add and then convert it to mp3 or wma DMM wont do it .DRM is a farce anyway if it doesnt allow for Fair Use on your own equipment .they can sign the files anyway with thier unique ID .I would never sign up to a service that imposes strict DRM on thier files .eMusic doesnt impose DRM and at the momnet have a 50 free song givaway so look them up and give em a try if you want legal clean mp3s.

http://www.emusic.com/promo/winamp

[Unregistered]

If anyone has a problem with their HDD locking up which is a problem on some units especialy the 1x0 series with early firmware and the HDD 060 in some situations ,there is a easy fix .Press every button on the unit all at the same time and it will turn the unit off then it should boot up again no problems unless you get the dreaded ! icon then your screwed .

Matt

PS Ptune is the best program for the HDD 060 so far it syncs no problems and the playlist support is the first I have been able to use .Im glad Stephan made his program LGPL so Phillips has to qoute thier source if they use his code.HA HA

[Unregistered]

I had a quick look at the MP3universtiy FAQ and they add drm to some files it seems so unleess you find what DRM they add and then convert it to mp3 or wma DMM wont do it .DRM is a farce anyway if it doesnt allow for Fair Use on your own equipment .they can sign the files anyway with thier unique ID .I would never sign up to a service that imposes strict DRM on thier files .eMusic doesnt impose DRM and at the momnet have a 50 free song givaway so look them up and give em a try if you want legal clean mp3s.

http://www.emusic.com/promo/winamp

how do i convert DRM files to MP3 or WMA? if i do will the HDD1x0 really play it?

[Unregistered]

how much does emusic cost? MP3 university is just 99cents a month. period

[Unregistered]

Ahhhh MP3 University is a paid file sharing service HA ha HA ha
Lets get back on topic now

[Unregistered]

The low tech hack for converting drm files is burning them to cd and then ripping them to mp3 but this will amount in a large loss of quality but it can be done .

[ChristinaS]

The low tech hack for converting drm files is burning them to cd and then ripping them to mp3 but this will amount in a large loss of quality but it can be done .

I don't think there will be any loss of quality attributable to this process. When you burn your original file to an audio cd, the file is converted to a wav and then to cda (no loss from wav to cda). Subsequently ripping the cda track involves recovering the wav file (no loss again). Conversion to some other format only involves whatever loss would have occurred anyway if direct conversion had been possible.

[Unregistered]

yeah i burn cd's and then rip them to the HDD120 and the iPod 20GB. i can't really detect any loss of quality. but the iPod does sound better than the HDD120.

[Unregistered]

Ahhhh MP3 University is a paid file sharing service HA ha HA ha
Lets get back on topic now


aren't iTunes, Napster, and eMusic all paid file sharing services too? haha

[Unregistered]

Wiil the DAHT let me transfer music from my HDD to my PC?

[Unregistered]

Yeah but Paid file sharing isnt exactly legal if its a hacked Kazza client like MP3 University supplies unless you are buying Alnet content so then you are dishing out more money .Mp3 University is basicly Kazza and winamp with tech support go look at the screenshots and look at the network numbers you will see what they are all about .
Paid Music services get thier licence of the copyright holder or thier record companies thats why you pay so much for them .

[Unregistered]

you can transfer music to the HDD with windows explorer or winamp with the gUSB plugin in the F:\ directory or a directory of your choice and then you update the database with DAHT from the HDD .You also can use ptune which I personally havnt had much sucesss with but I think my playlists may be corrupted or im doing somthing wrong like not sending the .pls file over and the .m3u . Everytime ive tried ptune my HDD turns off after I select a file. Ill have to just try sending mp3s next time I get it running .Any sugesstions on this .

I would prefer to use ptune as it synchs with the HDD 060 and adds the files to a simmar manner that DMM does ie simmlar "encrpypted " names in the hidden directory .All done without bullshit and crappy interface that DMM presents, it also adds playlists that are in order the way you want them for the first time .

[Unregistered]

so MP3university isn't legal even though it says it is?

[Unregistered]

There has been alot of information on p2p scam sites on the various p2p news sites and Mp3 Universtiy is one that is listed on most of them ,the way these sites can say they are legal is that p2p in itself is leagal ,it is the sharing of copyrighted content that is not legal is what they seem to forget to tell you about .

http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=462
http://www.fukrulez.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=353
http://www.beatking.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3725

[Unregistered]

Well I don't think it would work for the HDD100 right away without any changes, as the file structure for the HDD100 is different than the HDD060.

[Unregistered]

There has been alot of information on p2p scam sites on the various p2p news sites and Mp3 Universtiy is one that is listed on most of them ,the way these sites can say they are legal is that p2p in itself is leagal ,it is the sharing of copyrighted content that is not legal is what they seem to forget to tell you about .

http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=462
http://www.fukrulez.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=353
http://www.beatking.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3725

what about www.mp3downloadhq.com? i didn't see it on any of those lists. is it a scam site too? in the fukrulez article they had a www.emp3downloadhq.com. was that a typo?

i don't know what to believe anymore.

[Unregistered]

yeah that was a typo .Dont belive sites promising unlimited downloads and then distributing p2p programs to let you do it with .Basicly if its p2p you can get it for free .Personally I only use Open source p2p like emule a eDonkey open source p2p program http://www.emule-project.net/ ,KCeasy - a Kazza like client http://www.kceasy.com/ ,MUTE -Annoymous file sharing http://mute-net.sourceforge.net/ ,WASTE small group chat and file sharing (50 -150 nodes ) http://waste.sourceforge.net/

[Unregistered]

yeah that was a typo .Dont belive sites promising unlimited downloads and then distributing p2p programs to let you do it with .Basicly if its p2p you can get it for free .Personally I only use Open source p2p like emule a eDonkey open source p2p program http://www.emule-project.net/ ,KCeasy - a Kazza like client http://www.kceasy.com/ ,MUTE -Annoymous file sharing http://mute-net.sourceforge.net/ ,WASTE small group chat and file sharing (50 -150 nodes ) http://waste.sourceforge.net/

the rwal p2p sites aren't legal though, are they?

[Unregistered]

the rwal p2p sites aren't legal though, are they?

*real*

[Unregistered]

As I said before p2p is legal , actually alot of the net runs on peer to peer networking and technology like the DNS protocol that assigns names to IP numbers .Peer to Peer file sharing is legal it is the trading of copyrighted that creates the legal problem .There are networks like Meroca that offer legal peer to peer radio so you can listen to another users music and they have aquired the licences to do this thier bussiness model is if you like a song then youy can download it legaly for a price from Merocas secure servers .Also there are some networks and groups that only trade in non copyrighted material or where the publisher has created content for the public domain.

http://www.eff.org/IP/P2P/p2p_copyright_wp.php
http://www.downhillbattle.org/
http://creativecommons.org/

[Unregistered]

is there ANY way to let the HDD100 keep the track order i want it to?

i've tried filenames like 01-trackname.mp3 > no luck
id3v1 track nr > doesnt matter
id3v2 track nr > doesnt matter

all of the above > results in the same illogical random order.

this is really bugging me, because now i can't listen to my cabaret albums like i'm supposed to ( first track 1, then 2,3,4,5.. you get the point)

[Unregistered]

[QUOTE=Unregistered]is there ANY way to let the HDD100 keep the track order i want it to?...QUOTE]

http://forums.designtechnica.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=93 <------ Go there. Its a forum for all HDD users to help out eachother with problems like urs.

[Unregistered]

Try using salons app for the HDD100/120 it also supports playlists

http://solonweb.free.fr/

I use ptune for the HDD060 and it seems the best solution for the player at this current time as it with the HDD from the PC and you dont have to fiddle with uploading programs to the player like DHAT/ (which is good if you swap stuff with friends and at work ).I know stephan is workin on version 0.3 .

ptune
http://www.nowecor.de/users/stephan/cpp/hdd060.html

[Unregistered]

Wtf?!?!?!


Why Has The Philips Hdd060 Been Removed From The Philips Website!?

[Spoon]

Philips driver for Sveta Released:

http://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthread.php?t=4628

[Unregistered]

Spoon you defintily are working blind when I first used your driver I got the ! icon and had to rebuild my database with DMM dont know why that happened .Then after fixing it by formating and loading DMM to rebuild the HDD I tried again and the MP3s load into the music folder creates but Sveta explorer couldnt read the ID3 tags it maybe have somthing to do with syching the genre as Ptune wouldnt work with DMM till stephan synched the genres and all the other ID3 tags . You should have a look at stephans code and maybe release this one as open source .Or wait till ya get your player. Back to the drawing baord buddy .

Warning!!!!!! dont use this driver till Spoon fixes it .

[Unregistered]

Direct Link for the Phillips HDD060 support site it hasnt been taken down but you have to dig around and fill about 3 web forms to get the link

http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpproduct_selector.pl?scy=US&slg=AEN&SearchTxt=HDD060&grp=&cat=&sct=&tmplt=

[Unregistered]

Looks like you cant send directories and subfolders with Sveta to the HDDO60 you can send folders with files no problems and single files are ok too so looks like the problem I had in my rant above . Also to Spoon the progress bar indicates 100% well before the file transfer occurs with Sveta and when you click Sveta while the file transfer is in progress it hangs .Anymore bugs to report anyone .

I Posted above not to use this driver till spoon fixes it but I urge all to try it out so we can make sure all the bugs are ironed out of this thing
if your HDD gives you problems like the ! icon you can always format it and then DMM will rebuild sytem files when you run it again ( DMM still has a use) then transfer your Music files back with ptune till spoon releases a final release . I hope Spoon will make a compleate replacment so DMM will never have to be used again . Im sure if you paid Ptune's stephan to help you you could have a app that Phillips may be interested in. The HDD 100/120 guys are screaming for a replacement Im sure Solon could help you out there seeing he now supports playlists and WMA for that device .

http://www.nowecor.de/users/stephan/cpp/hdd060.html
http://solonweb.free.fr/

[Unregistered]

Philips probably knows it's crappy software and they don't want people bugging them abuut it anymore.

[Spoon]

All sveta discussions are best on this seperate thread here:

http://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthread.php?p=21990#post21990

[Unregistered]

Hi there!

I would like to announce the latest version of ptune, my Philips HDD060 synchronisation tool.
Again, some bugs have been fixed.
Also, the tool also synchronizes genre information which makes it even more compatible to DMM and the device's own software.

The tool is - as usual - available under

http://www.nowecor.de/users/stephan/cpp/hdd060.html

regs,

Stephan

[Unregistered]

Am I right in thinking that the Sveta HDD060 driver does not work with WMA files? I have tried to copy [Send As Is] and convert [WMA V9] without success. Converting WMA files to MP3 works fine but takes time...

Thanks


M.

[Spoon]

Should work just fine, you have the dBpowerAMP WMA codecs installed? check by converting any file to wma with the music converter and hold the mouse of the wma file, it should show the details of said file.

[Unregistered]

The WMA files are copied to the HDD060 in both instances (copy and convert) but they appear in the root directory on the player (not in X:\_system\media\audio\ folder) hence they don't appear in the track list and don't play.

M.

[_Matt]

Look in the Extras option of sveta explorer and you will find the options search for lost files in database and search for lost files player then your wmas should be found m.Spoon is still programing blind with the HDD060 ,He has one on order but hasnt recived it yet .Still Sveta beats DMM already with encoding on the fly with the music conveter and easy transfer of Music and playlist creation .Also Good Bye Phillips DMM with its false DRM .I persoaly use the encoder to reduce my 320k MP3s down to 128k .

[Unregistered]

No, still no joy. I tried copying WMA files into the root directory and \_system\media\audio directory, used both Search for Lost Files options but got a message saying the database is correct and up to date.

Otherwise the software is great, no DMM locking up and tracks playing in order!

M.

[Unregistered]

Thats right no DMM locking up ,Tracks Play in order , also no 100% CPU usage ,you arnt treated like a criminal and to tranfer tracks to and from the device .You can tranfer legaly purhased m4P's (itunes) and get them converted on the fly .Playlists are not a chore to make .Easy to delete files .The program isnt written in Java .

[Unregistered]

I'm happy!!! I tried to run DMM on my laptop but it allways crashed and I had to restart. So I decided to give back my HDD 060 and get some other player. But then I found this side. Thanks to all you clever people for your help. Special Thanks to Spoon. I downloaded SvetaPortableAudio-r5b4.exe and SPA-PhilipsHDD060.exe and now it works! (I can't find out how to load playlists, the m3u files are only 1 kb and are not shown on the player.) But I'm happy that I can put music on my HDD. Thanks a lot. nico.

[Spoon]

How are you adding the playlists? check the right playlist option (ie copy tracks and create playlist) is set in Sveta Explorer >> Options

then copy the playlist to the philips using sveta explorer.

[Unregistered]

Any news from the guy who programmed DHAT?
It just works fine, but it would be perfect if it could handle with genre-tags and playlists :-)

[_Matt]

In a earlier post in this thread Saniel the developer of DHAT indicated that he would like to work with Spoon in developing the HDD060 Driver. Seeing that Sveta and the HDD driver have been the best solution yet I dont expect to see much 3rd party development.This is because most people where releasing programs till Spoon came up with a solution for the HDD060 .DAHT and Ptune are both open source so they still be could be developed if someone wants to take them up .The beta versions of Sveta and the Phillips Driver are free so at the moment you dont have to pay for them .If you want the full versions you need to pay for them maybe we should all send Phillips the Bill ha ha .

[Unregistered]

Hi,
When uploading music files to my HDD060, my computer crashes as soon as I try to upload the SECOND mp3 file. Using MusicMatch Jukebox produces exactly the same fault. I've tried everything, updates etc. What am I doing wrong? WinME. (Data files with explorer no problem)

[_Matt]

Have you tried sveta or are you useing DMM becuse some computers crash with DMM also if thier is a java conflict .Spoon is the best person to ask as hes the expert on this stuff.

[Unregistered]

Yes, I've tried all the programs I could lay my hands on, includíng Sveta. Same result! (Tried DHAT as well but it seems that nothing shows up on the display afterwards).
Perhaps the HDD is not in order. Is the windows driver OK - USBMPHLP.PDR from 06/08/2000. VMM32.VXD listed as well. The main problem seems to be that the computer mostly issues a warning that the device has been removed without using the proper method of disconnecting, whereas I haven't done anything and the unit is still connected.
Gordon

[Spoon]

Check the battery of the device, try another computer to rule out your computer.

[Unregistered]

I have the same Problem with my HDD 060. I can't upload more than one file at once. If more then The Computer says "Lost connection" Can't connenct or something like that. The HDD 060 is brand new. I have uploaded about 20 titles by now. But as i said one by one. Sometimes i can't even upload one file. ??

I have tried different USB Cables and Ports but it's allways the same ??

I have the newest Firmware. Tried it on DMM v. 3.0 and also on Sveta. Same problem ??

[_Matt]

Looks like Phillips updated DMM bigtime they suddenly released version 3.0 and now have a musicmatch driver also Spoon can you better thier lame efforts or did they just reverse engineer your code or did they give you a contract (ha ha) the changelog hasnt been changed yet really profesional Phillips it is still VERSION 1.3.

.THE new DMM comes in at a wopping 50MB really copact coding Phillips !!!

Spoon you should be flattered that you made Phillips lift thier game .

[Unregistered]

Looks like Phillips updated DMM bigtime they suddenly released version 3.0 and now have a musicmatch driver also Spoon can you better thier lame efforts or did they just reverse engineer your code or did they give you a contract (ha ha) the changelog hasnt been changed yet really profesional Phillips it is still VERSION 1.3.

.THE new DMM comes in at a wopping 50MB really copact coding Phillips !!!

Spoon you should be flattered that you made Phillips lift thier game .

Will this work with the HDD100?

[Unregistered]

Will this work with the HDD100?


no

[Unregistered]

There's no way i'm going back to DMM now even if they have leapt up to version3.0 - you can't polish a turd. i got sveta yesterday and easily added new files to the player without any trouble at all, and unlike with DMM changing the tags of the tracks on the player is actually feasible!

Brilliant bit of kit finally has a useable app to make it work i feel like i've just got the hdd all over again. Thanks Spoon!

[_Matt]

I agree Sveta is still far better than DMM even with the V 3.0 upgrade .Looks like Phillips visted the dbpoweramp forums becuse now they have artist ,album and genre options and drag and drop .There is better ID3 tag editing but its still written in Java even though they dont provide Linux support .Musicmatch is always asking to to upgrade al la Realplayer ,so it could be classed as adware . I will stick with Sveta .I really have major issues with Digital Rights Management (DRM) as it limits fair use of your own files that you legaly own so I will keep using 3rd party software until the major media compaines and manufactures realise that DRM doesnt work and encoding identifiers into the media file does .

[Unregistered]

I have a problem with the DMM.
I cant start the DMM. Windows reported that the DMM.jar is not a Windows 32-Bit Programm.
What can i do?

[_Matt]

Piss DMM off and get svetta. If you need DMM it is also updated on the Phillips site the version 3.0 so try that if its your first time setting up your DMM. SPoon should look into laoding the firmware or a firmware updater for the Phillips Driver for Sveta to alivate the problems DMM cuases becuse its written in Java .

[Unregistered]

Who can i get svetta?

[Raimse]

Hey, just one thing:
What about DHAT?
has it been forgotten in a drawer or something?
I mean it was great: it was a really light program,and you didn't have to install it on any computer you wanted to get music from...
I wish it could be improved, with for example .wma support, genre support, accentuated letters support (when you try putting a ö,ï,é,è, it only shows a X)....
Sveta is cool alright, but to me it has disadvantages compared to DHAT, so I hope that one of you will follow the work that's already been accomplished on DHAT
I wish I could do it myself, but I don't know a thing about programming....
Anyway, I'd be very grateful if one of you could do that

[Unregistered]

Who can i get svetta?
http://www.dbpoweramp.com/sveta-portable-audio.htm

[Unregistered]

I have a verry verry serious problem with my hdd060!
First of all, DMM does not work. It used to work but now it doesn't.
When i try to start it, it tells me: Path not found ( im not english so i dont know if this is correct, in German it says: Das System konnte den angegebenen Pfad nicht finden)
Also after formating the hdd it does nothing but showing me an exlamation mark
So right know im really pissed, because none of this crap works!

I really hope one of you guys can help me!

[Spoon]

Reinstall your dmm.

[Unregistered]

I have tryed that....several times

[Unregistered]

Problem solved
It turned out, that it was all javas fault. So i reinstalled it, then connected the player. Now everything is fine

[Unregistered]

hello,

for people searching a soft for hdd100 or hdd120, can try this url.

http://solonweb.free.fr

bye.

[Unregistered]

any new "custom" or "hacked" firmware for hd060 yet to allow simple drag and drop and able to read "filenames" for the playlist? email me "heathstuey@hotmail.com" thanks guys.

stu

[moo454]

me to i have a hdd120

[Nilos]

Problem solved
It turned out, that it was all javas fault. So i reinstalled it, then connected the player. Now everything is fine

you re-installed Java ? ...I have the cannot find path aswel ( in dutch )
so...what should I do , reinstalling DMM doesn 't work so ....java ...how do I get that right then..

Cu Nilos

[stuey]

hi, i was wondering if there was a program like dhat for the ipod mini, i have a ipod mini now as my hdd060 broke which i loved :( anyway, hope one of you can help me

thanks

stu

[nigthetrooper]

Hello, Just installed svetsaexplorer for my neighbour. He has bought a hdd060 and we've also figured that DMM is bobbins.

I've installed the driver for him, but we've had some more difficulty. When we've tried transferring files over the folowing error has popped up:

svetaexplorer has caused an error in PHILIPS HDD060.DLL

svetaexplorer will now close

Has this anything to do with his files being WMA's ?

If so do I need to convert all his audio files to mp3 ?

[Spoon]

First make sure you have the WMA codecs installed in dbpoweramp, then try to convert a WMA file outside of Sveta to something like mp3, if you can do this then Sveta shouldn't be crashing.

I am thinking that your WMA files are encrypted.

[nigthetrooper]

How do I check the codecs are installed ?

Is there a tool with the dbpoweramp that can convert the files ?

If they are encrypted what can I do ?

Thanks

[nigthetrooper]

Can anyone else give me any solutions to the above ?

Thanks

[Spoon]

Run dMC Configuration that will show what codecs are installed.

To convert, right click on wma file >> convert to >>

If it is encrypted there is nothing you can do (you music is locked).

[djjayc]

I think this is rediculous. I finally got the thing installed but now I can't add any music bcause the philips program crashes every time. In 6 hours I got one song on the player! It would be awesome if it worked, do they test these things before they ship em out? Philips better do something about this before they lose all there customers.

[Unregistered]

this is real *blooper**blooper**blooper**blooper*ed up. i really thought that PHILIPS would have sorted this problem out. has anyone else have a answer to the problem except PHILIPS please....!!!!!!

[netpower]

Hi guys, I'm the one who asked the unregistered users to email me the software so I can post it... And he DID email me a file!! Now I have not tested it, so please post some comments if it works etc...

My web page:
http://home.comcast.net/~foglem/
The file:
http://home.comcast.net/~foglem/UpdateHDD060DB.zip

hello

the link is dead , and i looking for a soft for change of DMM !!
do you have a other link please ?

[Unregistered]

my player is not being recognised by sveta and it is getting really annoying. all i want to do is listen to my music but i dont trust dmm

[Spoon]

First you must use DMM to load atleast 1 track onto the player, then Sveta should work.

[Unregistered]

i've used it on a clean new philips without ne tracks and it works

[Unregistered]

I'm here to throw in my vote for Philips HDD support, too! I have an HDD120 but the driver would probably be the samer or similar.

I was so frustrated to get this home and find out that it won't play music files simply transferred to its drive... and that my favorite music app doesn't have support for it. :-( ('Course Philips says the device won't support music transfers to the drive because of DRM.... I guess just another device BROKEN by DRM. It wouldn't matter too music if the software they threw in were half decent.)

Oops, sorry to be on the soapbox! Anyway, love the software and would love to see my Philips supported!

Thanks,

Joe

[Unregistered]

I had the same problem with DMM where it didnt work. All i started doing was opening java web start before opening DMM. It opens up the "javaw" programmy thingy in the close program box and it let me open up DMM and get further than the splashscreen. It took me a week to work that out *shakes head*

[Unregistered]

Hi there. I have a new problem. Since installing SP2 in Windows XP, I cannot transfer files to my HDD060. DMM loads nicely, showing contents of HDD but does not allow either firmware upgrade or data transfer. HDD can be accessed via IExplore. Have also tried Sveta-same result. Am I missing something here?
Thanks for any assistance and Cheers!
Dominik

[Cluber]

This topic is long dead but i just got a HDD120. I can't edit the file name because of the encrytion. Does anyone know if there is a way to Decrypt it?
Or even knwo what type of encrytion it is?
Thanks

[fred2004]

Hello everybody,

I own the hdd070 model, and I'm planning to create a linux software that can replace DMM, but I don't have Windows so I can't make tests. I need help from people that have Windows and a hdd070 (or another model that works the same way like hdd060, but hdd100 and hdd120 are fine too because I may be able to support all models). I'd like to have some people using the real philips DMM to put a few files on their hdd, and sending me an email (at sfrederic@club-internet.fr) with :

- model name of their hdd
- complete listing of the drive (all paths of all hidden/visible directories and files)
- all files in the drive excepted music files (for example in an attached zip archive)

Please create two or three playlists, and use one or two WMA file besides mp3 files if possible (I want my program to support WMA).

I'd be glad if somebody could do that :D. Linux lacks a good software for the hdd, and moreover my work could be usefull for the Windows users too as I may discover unknown things about the guts of the hdd. The more examples i get, the best my program and knowledge will be.

Fred

[HomeyTheClown]

Hi everybody!
I can't speak in english very well so forgive me my grammatical errors. I just really need some help with my hdd060 mp3 player. When i plug it in to my pc, Xp find it as Mass storage Device but can't find any driver! I tried to download the latest software but it doesn't worked. Could someone please send me the driver file so i can try to instal it manualy?
My e-mail : zielonyman@go2.pl

[ChristinaS]

Hi everybody!
I can't speak in english very well so forgive me my grammatical errors. I just really need some help with my hdd060 mp3 player. When i plug it in to my pc, Xp find it as Mass storage Device but can't find any driver! I tried to download the latest software but it doesn't worked. Could someone please send me the driver file so i can try to instal it manualy?
My e-mail : zielonyman@go2.pl
Get the drivers from http://www.dbpoweramp.com/sveta-portable-philips.htm

[HomeyTheClown]

Thx, but I tried it already :blush: . Could someone send me driver? You should find it in device meneger.

# Driver.sys
# Driver.dll
# Driver.inf
# Driver.cat

That's what i'm talking about.

[ChristinaS]

Thx, but I tried it already :blush: . Could someone send me driver? You should find it in device meneger.

# Driver.sys
# Driver.dll
# Driver.inf
# Driver.cat

That's what i'm talking about.
You better ask for support from the Phillips web site if those drivers do not help you. I think the dBpowerAMP drivers are probably meant to be used with Sveta.

[Slayer]

Hi, I'm a new user from Italy. I need this program to change DMM but I don't find it on the web. Can anybody help me?? :vmad:
Thanks!


Hi guys, I'm the one who asked the unregistered users to email me the software so I can post it... And he DID email me a file!! Now I have not tested it, so please post some comments if it works etc...

My web page:
http://home.comcast.net/~foglem/
The file:
http://home.comcast.net/~foglem/UpdateHDD060DB.zip

[Tibzzz]

I am currently working on a solution that supports both wma format and mp3 format. The goal of this application is to give you a simple and user friendly user interface. If anyone is interested in helping me during the test, he will be welcome. (these will begin in a week...) Just let me know!

[Raimse]

I am currently working on a solution that supports both wma format and mp3 format. The goal of this application is to give you a simple and user friendly user interface. If anyone is interested in helping me during the test, he will be welcome. (these will begin in a week...) Just let me know!


Maybe this can help:
http://dhat.webpark.cz/
it was made a while ago and comletely forgotten
it's not what you'd call grahicall appealing, but I found it pretty efficient. too bad it didn't support .WMA and playlists, and seemed to have little problems withe some MP3 files.... but I think it should be a good basis, and the concept of just copying your files to the hdd, then launching the program (allowing copy from HDD to PC, no changing names, organised directories...)
if you decide and manage to improve DHAT, I'll be glad to test it

[Sheriff]

I need an installation disc for my HDD060!!!! Can anyone help? PLEASE!
ta very much
isheriff@isheriff.karoo.co.uk