A few sveta suggestions..

[puntloos]

Hey Spoon, as promised, I bought Powerpack now. (since you implemented the file/dirnames thing :) )

Today I've added about 2000 files to my ipod, since I'm going on holiday. The following is a list of suggestions I thought up while yelling at my computer ;)

ipod specific:
- A Button that verifies the current database (i.e. check if files are missing and if so remove them from the database) would be very useful. I had to download and install Ephpod for it :P
- Even allow a user to change (i.e. remove) the 'Ipod_Control/Music' part of the destination path. I'm 99.9% sure that the ipod will work just fine with tracks/dirs in a /Music dir. All it needs is a database pointing at the right place, and in fact, with removing all those "Ipod_Control" entries the database will be a lot smaller.. - 26kilobyte smaller with 10Gb worth of 128kbit tracks, to be (fairly) exact.
- Are you filtering bad filenames yet? accents, copyright-symbols etc in filenames will confuse the pod..

generic:
- Somehow allow the system to recursively add directories to 'processing queue'.. Encoding dir by dir is a huge pain with 50+ dirs.
- Make a iTunes mp4 codec 'frontend' - just like you did with nero. According to Hydrogenaudio, iTunes contains the best mp4 encoder out there currently, plus its free!
- A bit more clarity in the mp4 codec download page, its quite unclear which encoder to choose.. is faac better than nero? psytel better than faac? - perhaps its a matter of taste, but a subjective opinion would be welcome too.
- Perhaps an explorer-like interface to the playlists? The current system really confuses me. For example:
1/ I had one album, Admiral Freebee, 12 tracks selected
2/ I typed 'Rock' in the box next to 'New Folder' and clicked on 'New Folder'
.. and indeed, I have a new folder 'Rock'. Sadly, the Admiral Freebee tracks now have disappeared from the 'All' folder, and have not even appeared in the 'Rock' folder. Sounds like a bug? At any rate, take a look if you would at how iTunes does it.. frankly that system rules. Just select a few albums, then drag the selection into one of the playlist on the left and it copies all the tracks into that list. If you want you can then delete them from the original list.
- More flexible columns in Sveta... quite frankly the entire sveta interface is useless to me, I really need to see genre, albumname and artistname and be able to sort by column for it to be useful. (to me).

Anyway I ended up moving all my tracks, after properly tagging them, to one big dir. Then I told dbpoweramp to encode em all to my ipod. With Tag&Rename I can move the source files back into a nice directory structure in one click. Tomorrow I'll be using iTunes to generate proper playlists :P

[Spoon]

Noted :) (BTW with File Selector addon, you should be able to select files in multi folders and send in one go).

[Unregistered]

relative to that, with the latest Sveta and the latest iPod plugin (never tried the other ones), it is impossible to add tunes to playlists by selecting them and then creating a new "folder". it doesn't add them.

And special feat to do : can you make a "rename playlist" option?

[Spoon]

For the next Sveta - I am writing it as we speak, playlists will be handled much better.

[Unregistered]

still from the unregistered ipod guy

what do you code in? c++? delphi?

did you think about compiling it under Linux? (i MAY not be the first one to say)

[Unregistered]

Okay, here we go...

IT BASICALLY WORKS!

although the interface is not what i'd call THAT rendered, it is pretty much functionnal nontheless. Of course, you have to specify the folder of the iPod in the configuration app, but it just works!

i'd need the DLL needs, maybe I can patch up some things in dlloverrides... nice, ain't it?

[Unregistered]

last note : EVEN DBPOWERAMP WORKS AND CONVERTS!

[puntloos]

:confused: am I the only one who's not quite clear on what mr. Unregistred is succeeding at?

[Spoon]

no :)

[puntloos]

At least its something spiffy and concerning Sveta, so YAY! :P

Incidentally: one more request, though perhaps this works out of the box (but I dont think so).. when adding files (with the 'search for lost files') thing, does Sveta recognise track numbers and/or track filenames? (01 - blah.mp4) - I got the distinct feeling that some albums were randomized or sorted by title even though I tagged them properly and the ipod wasnt in 'shuffle' mode.

Also, a couple of tracks turned out not to play correctly. I'll have to find them again, find out why, will report back.

[jsrlepage]

whoops, i think i was unclear. now that i'm regged, it may be more clear.

Sveta Works In Linux! Although not a native version, it still works as if it was running under Winblows. Of course, it's not like Windows, because there are some bugs in the GUI of the program. But still, it transfers good, and IT EVEN CONVERTS SONGS WITH DBPOWERAMP!

Spoon : As it is not of optimal performance, could you tell which dlls it uses? It may be only because some dlls are misloaded that there are graphical bugs...

edit: whoops, just noticed dbpoweramp is comptible on the front page.

[jsrlepage]

yes, i know, this is bumping... but spoon, can you tell me which shared libraries (dll) sveta uses? it can't be THAT much...

(like for image loading [the player picture, like the iPod], the icons, etc...)

[Spoon]

does Sveta recognise track numbers and/or track filenames? (

Only from the mp4 tag, if you have used an early version of mp4 codec the tagging has unfortunately changed to the current itunes standard.

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What sort of shared libraries? system ones there will be at least 8 that use others.

[jsrlepage]

sorry for the late reply, still in school and i'm in over my head...

ANY shared libs used (dlls, anything). I'll toy with how they are loaded (this is on Wine's side.)

And how do you call the little menu?


Why i ask? There could be a way of making a menu entry that would make wine call an exe/dll with the specific option. Wine loads, you have the little conversion menu.

[Spoon]

Which option would you want to add? you mentioned the image of the ipod, you want that removing?

[jsrlepage]

i think i am misunderstood here...

Presently, dbPoweramp doesn't have the shadow of a clue of a bug. it works out of the box.

sveta, on the other hand... well, let's say it's not as out-of-the-box as dbPoweramp. While you have to have done beautiful coding (both have optimal functionality, you get a * handful of cookies for that), sveta has some problems loading its graphics under Wine.

So, what I want to do is, by having the list of every and any library sveta needs to load its graphics (you MUST call upon something in windows... otherwise you would have ported your app to GTK and made many happy dudes because it would be multi-OS), and then I can see if it is only some loading problem.


add : Also, i'd want to call dbPowerAmp directly from the GUI (let's say, KDE or GNOME anyone?). By knowing how to call the dll/exe (or can you make an EXE to call upon the dll of the little menu? i THINK it's a DLL, i may be wrong), i could make an entry in the "right-click" menu (words get out of my head at this hour...) that directly calls upon Wine, itself calling dbPowerAmp's submenu or conversion interface.

[Spoon]

I don't know sorry, I have little knowledge of Wine so cannot advise.

[jsrlepage]

i am utterly misunderstood here...

Spoon, which dlls do you use in dbPoweramp? And how do you call the conversion submenu?

[Spoon]

The conversion menu is not a command, it is a dll using extended shell integration.

As for which Dlls dBpowerAMP uses, try to find your self a copy of 'Dependancy Walker' it comes with Visual C v6 and will show what each exe uses, or each dll uses.

[Razgo]

also check out franks corner. he has made a dBpowerAMP Audio Player Release 2
* dBpowerAMP Music converter Release 10.1 to work under linux using wine. you could also ask frank at the forums to do a sveta as well.

http://frankscorner.org/

[puntloos]

Hey Spoon, very cool work on the quicktime 6.5 frontend, I didnt try it yet, but I love that I can now use quicktime on oggs mpc's etc.

I found a bug in Sveta now, or, well, I -suppose- that with rational thinking I should've realised it wouldn't work, but you should (in my opinion) add some warning message:

I did:

1/ Install dmc
2/ Install (regged) powerpack
3/ Install sveta
4/ Install Ipod addon
5/ Install quicktime mp4 codec
6/ Drag lotsandlots of files into my ipod with normal explorer (to ipod control/music/artistname/albumname/gna.m4a
7/ Use the 'find lost files' option (btw: Id still love the 'verify current tracks and remove if absent' option)

Result: aaah horrible, no artists no albums no nothing.

The reason: (at least I think, I left home, didnt have more time to experiment)

I forgot to install the mp4 decoder so it couldnt read tags

As I said at the start its kinda logical that it failed, but a warning about 'adding mp4 to ipod but remember I cant read tags without the decoder' would perhaps be helpful to stupid ppl like me ;)

[Spoon]

I have had it on my mind for the main players to create install packages, so the Ipod would have mp4 in there.