DRM'd CD - Accuraterip says ok but audio clicks

[moley6knipe]

I've got a CD by Turin Brakes called Ether Song. It's a CopyControlled CD; I couldn't get it to rip without audio artifacts in any mode (Ref 13) i.e. defective by design, Secure, Burst. Autorun is off on my PC.

However, Accurate Rip reported tracks 1 and 2 as inaccurate, but the other tracks as accurate. However, they've all got massive clicks and drop-outs on them.

Does this simply mean that everyone that's ripped this disc hears the same errors?

Strangely using the same PC and drive CDex (with Paranoia set to full) ripped without any artifacts, bar two on the last track which it marked on the log as Jitter:2 which seems normal for CDex ripping a CopyControlled disc.

T'other week I ripped Mansun's Kleptomania with Ref 13 set to Burst and it sailed through - and this 3CD set has the same CopyControlled scheme on it.

Just one of those things?

[Spoon]

>Just one of those things?

I think so.

[moley6knipe]

To follow up on this; the bulk of my CopyControlled discs fail to rip in any mode of dBpoweramp ref 13.1 without audible artifacts.

CDex (http://cdexos.sourceforge.net/) set to Full Paranoia produces audibly click/pop free rips; it reports "Jitter" as it calls it on the last track, which according to CDex is always followed by the "data track".

Why does a basic, not bit-perfect, ripper produce better results that dBpoweramp on these discs?

I've got auto-run turned off in dBpoweramp and in the registry.

I'm also concerned that apparently lots of people have ripped the same copy controlled disc (for example Ether Song by Turin Brakes) and thus it's in the AccurateRip db - this means that AR says it's accurate, but the result is unlistenable. Can AR be set to reject submissions from CC discs?

[moley6knipe]

By the way, my drive is a Samsung SH-203P. I've "calibrated" it properly in dBpoweramp.

[Spoon]

How would AR know it was a CC disc? You might find ripping with c2 pointers off (if were on) gives a different rip.

[freaky]

Just one of those things?[/QUOTE]

Why bothering with "Does it rip copy-protected or not" (= one of those things), I suggest my way:
ConeCD + any DVD, write an image in CloneCD, load the image into the virtual clone drive (freeware) and rip with db just selecting the virtual drive as source. Everything's fine then. Perhaps this also explains why there are reference rips in accurate rip. I admit this is a "long walk" around, but it provides with best results (and is finally faster - fast reading in clone, faster ripping in db.)
Greetings