Re-rips in middle of albums

[inershun]

I've ripped 5 albums, all unsealed and new. I've just recently converted from EAC to dBpoweramp CD Ripper.

Here's the thing, I'm getting consistent errors somewhere in the middle of an album (usually the exact middle and around 1 or 2 tracks get re-ripped), but yet everything else seems to be secure.

I have the Samsung SH-152A and it supports C2, no cache, accurate stream, lead out, and maybe HTOA.

I've been using Ultra Secure: 3/6/2. Individual re-reads at around 50. This is because I think it doesn't support C2 as well. When I have C2 on, nearly the whole album has to get re-ripped, even if the CD is completely new. Thus I get all tracks having the Secure (Warning) label.

But if I turn C2 off, it seems to be fine giving me Secure checkmarks. The funny thing is that only 1 or 2 tracks are always getting re-ripped in the middle of the album. It's been like this for 5 straight new and clean CDs. I've been wondering if this is some sort of malfunction or if there's a possible way to fix this before I continue with the rest of my collection.

Anyway, great ripper! I love it. Thanks for reading.

[bhoar]

How is the drive connected? e.g. IDE/SATA/USB/Firewire?

-brendan

[inershun]

Through IDE.

[bhoar]

Hmm, odd.

1. What source do you have documenting C2 support (daefeatures.co.uk or elsewhere)?

2. Have you checked to see if you have any upper/lower filter drivers installed on that drive/interface that might be interfering?

3. If you set to C2-off secure, but not ultrasecure what results do you get with a known good disc in accuraterip?

4. If you set to C2-on secure, but not ultrasecure what results do you get with a known good disc in accuraterip?

-brendan

[Spoon]

I would say your Samsung is not ripping correctly with c2 enabled (it sounds like it is getting a new offset whilst ripping, for most of the track to re-rip).

[inershun]

Hmm, odd.

1. What source do you have documenting C2 support (daefeatures.co.uk or elsewhere)?

2. Have you checked to see if you have any upper/lower filter drivers installed on that drive/interface that might be interfering?

3. If you set to C2-off secure, but not ultrasecure what results do you get with a known good disc in accuraterip?

4. If you set to C2-on secure, but not ultrasecure what results do you get with a known good disc in accuraterip?

-brendan

1. daefeatures.co.uk and dBpoweramp said that it was capable. There's a PDF file for it's user manual here (just look for tech specs, I'm not sure if it states it anywhere there): http://org.downloadcenter.samsung.com/downloadfile/ContentsFile.aspx?CDSite=us&CttFileID=162811&CDCttType=UM&ModelType=C&ModelName=SH-152A&VPath=UM/200505/20050516180422625_SH-152A_Eng.pdf

2. I'm not quite sure what those filter drivers would be. Are you speaking of IDE controllers? That would be NVIDIA nForce2 ATA Controller (v2.6)

3. dBpoweramp Release 12.4 Digital Audio Extraction Log from Friday, May 16, 2008 4:08 PM

Drive & Settings
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Ripping with drive 'D: [SAMSUNG - CD-ROM SH-152A ]', Drive offset: 12, Overread Lead-in/out: Yes
AccurateRip: Active, Using C2: No, Cache: None, FUA Cache Invalidate: No
Pass 1 Drive Speed: Max, Pass 2 Drive Speed: Max
Bad Sector Re-rip:: Drive Speed: Max, Maximum Re-reads: 34

Encoder: [Multi Encoder] -enc1="FLAC=-compression-level-8 -verify" -encMopt1=" -tofolder={mqt}G:\My Music\Archive\{mqt} -dynamic={mqt}[IFCOMP][IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],Various Artists[]\[album][IFMULTI] [Disc [disc]-[disc_total]][]\[artist] - [track] - [title][][IF!COMP][IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],[artist][]\[album][IFMULTI] [Disc [disc]-[disc_total]][]\[artist][IFMULTI][] - [track] - [title][]{mqt}" -enc2="mp3 (Lame)=-V 0" -encMopt2=" -tofolder={mqt}G:\My Music\MP3\{mqt} -dynamic={mqt}[IFCOMP][IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],Various Artists[]\[album][IFMULTI] [Disc [disc]-[disc_total]][]\[artist] - [track] - [title][][IF!COMP][IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],[artist][]\[album][IFMULTI] [Disc [disc]-[disc_total]][]\[artist][IFMULTI][] - [track] - [title][]{mqt}"

Extraction Log
--------------

Track 1: Ripped LBA 0 to 16559 (3:40) in 0:12. Filename: G:\My Music\Archive\Blu\Below the Heavens\Blu - 01 - My World Is....IGNORE
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 2) [Pass 1]
CRC32: 25EAAD60

Track 2: Ripped LBA 16559 to 39763 (5:09) in 0:16. Filename: G:\My Music\Archive\Blu\Below the Heavens\Blu - 02 - The Narrow Path.IGNORE
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 2) [Pass 1]
CRC32: 611AD57E

Track 3: Ripped LBA 39763 to 60665 (4:38) in 0:13. Filename: G:\My Music\Archive\Blu\Below the Heavens\Blu - 03 - So(ul) Amazin' (Steel Blazin').IGNORE
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 2) [Pass 1]
CRC32: C25E5709

Track 4: Ripped LBA 60665 to 77520 (3:44) in 0:09. Filename: G:\My Music\Archive\Blu\Below the Heavens\Blu - 04 - Juicen' Dranks.IGNORE
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 2) [Pass 1]
CRC32: 8C109667

Track 5: Ripped LBA 77520 to 95815 (4:03) in 0:10. Filename: G:\My Music\Archive\Blu\Below the Heavens\Blu - 05 - In Rememberance of Me.IGNORE
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 2) [Pass 1]
CRC32: EBCB9F47

Track 6: Ripped LBA 95815 to 116132 (4:30) in 13:10. Filename: G:\My Music\Archive\Blu\Below the Heavens\Blu - 06 - Blu Colla Workers.IGNORE
AccurateRip: Inaccurate (confidence 2) Secure (Warning) [Pass 1 & 2, Re-Rip 3580 Frames]
CRC32: 237FDD53

Track 7: Ripped LBA 116132 to 136069 (4:25) in 5:38. Filename: G:\My Music\Archive\Blu\Below the Heavens\Blu - 07 - Dancing in the Rain.IGNORE
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 2) [Pass 1 & 2, Re-Rip 1832 Frames]
CRC32: 9A975A4A

Track 8: Ripped LBA 136069 to 153334 (3:50) in 0:08. Filename: G:\My Music\Archive\Blu\Below the Heavens\Blu - 08 - First Things First.IGNORE
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 2) [Pass 1]
CRC32: 05A1A412

Track 9: Ripped LBA 153334 to 172454 (4:14) in 0:08. Filename: G:\My Music\Archive\Blu\Below the Heavens\Blu - 09 - No Greater Love.IGNORE
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 2) [Pass 1]
CRC32: C8AD8A59

Track 10: Ripped LBA 172454 to 196689 (5:23) in 0:22. Filename: G:\My Music\Archive\Blu\Below the Heavens\Blu - 10 - Show Me the Good Life.IGNORE
Secure [Pass 1 & 2]
CRC32: 28EA1567

Track 11: Ripped LBA 196689 to 212397 (3:29) in 0:06. Filename: G:\My Music\Archive\Blu\Below the Heavens\Blu - 11 - Simply Amazin'.IGNORE
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 2) [Pass 1]
CRC32: 38D58A70

Track 12: Ripped LBA 212397 to 226803 (3:12) in 0:05. Filename: G:\My Music\Archive\Blu\Below the Heavens\Blu - 12 - Cold Hearted.IGNORE
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 2) [Pass 1]
CRC32: 290DE1A0

Track 13: Ripped LBA 226803 to 246807 (4:26) in 0:07. Filename: G:\My Music\Archive\Blu\Below the Heavens\Blu - 13 - The World Is (Below the Heavens...).IGNORE
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 2) [Pass 1]
CRC32: 2AA3B8E5

Track 14: Ripped LBA 246807 to 264015 (3:49) in 0:06. Filename: G:\My Music\Archive\Blu\Below the Heavens\Blu - 14 - You Are Now in the Clouds With (The Koochie Monstas).IGNORE
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 2) [Pass 1]
CRC32: 60EC2ADD

Track 15: Ripped LBA 264015 to 297424 (7:25) in 0:12. Filename: G:\My Music\Archive\Blu\Below the Heavens\Blu - 15 - [Untitled].IGNORE
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 2) [Pass 1]
CRC32: 37A838EE

Track 16: Ripped LBA 297424 to 310924 (3:00) in 0:04. Filename: G:\My Music\Archive\Blu\Below the Heavens\Blu - 16 - [Untitled].IGNORE
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 2) [Pass 1]
CRC32: 19E68843

Track 17: Ripped LBA 310924 to 331624 (4:36) in 0:07. Filename: G:\My Music\Archive\Blu\Below the Heavens\Blu - 17 - [Untitled].IGNORE
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 2) [Pass 1]
CRC32: 4C5B8CD2

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17 Tracks Ripped: 15 Accurate, 1 Secure, 1 Secure (Warning)

4. dBpoweramp Release 12.4 Digital Audio Extraction Log from Friday, May 16, 2008 4:45 PM

Drive & Settings
----------------

Ripping with drive 'D: [SAMSUNG - CD-ROM SH-152A ]', Drive offset: 12, Overread Lead-in/out: Yes
AccurateRip: Active, Using C2: Yes, Cache: None, FUA Cache Invalidate: No
Pass 1 Drive Speed: Max, Pass 2 Drive Speed: Max
Bad Sector Re-rip:: Drive Speed: Max, Maximum Re-reads: 34

Encoder: [Multi Encoder] -enc1="FLAC=-compression-level-8 -verify" -encMopt1=" -tofolder={mqt}G:\My Music\Archive\{mqt} -dynamic={mqt}[IFCOMP][IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],Various Artists[]\[album][IFMULTI] [Disc [disc]-[disc_total]][]\[artist] - [track] - [title][][IF!COMP][IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],[artist][]\[album][IFMULTI] [Disc [disc]-[disc_total]][]\[artist][IFMULTI][] - [track] - [title][]{mqt}" -enc2="mp3 (Lame)=-V 0" -encMopt2=" -tofolder={mqt}G:\My Music\MP3\{mqt} -dynamic={mqt}[IFCOMP][IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],Various Artists[]\[album][IFMULTI] [Disc [disc]-[disc_total]][]\[artist] - [track] - [title][][IF!COMP][IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],[artist][]\[album][IFMULTI] [Disc [disc]-[disc_total]][]\[artist][IFMULTI][] - [track] - [title][]{mqt}"

Extraction Log
--------------

Track 1: Ripped LBA 0 to 16559 (3:40) in 2:39. Filename: G:\My Music\Archive\Blu\Below the Heavens\Blu - 01 - My World Is....IGNORE
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 2) [Pass 1, Re-Rip 636 Frames]
CRC32: 25EAAD60

Track 2: Ripped LBA 16559 to 39763 (5:09) in 3:33. Filename: G:\My Music\Archive\Blu\Below the Heavens\Blu - 02 - The Narrow Path.IGNORE
AccurateRip: Inaccurate (confidence 2) Secure (Warning) [Pass 1, Re-Rip 893 Frames]
CRC32: 959A7C53

Track 3: Ripped LBA 39763 to 60665 (4:38) in 2:45. Filename: G:\My Music\Archive\Blu\Below the Heavens\Blu - 03 - So(ul) Amazin' (Steel Blazin').IGNORE
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 2) [Pass 1, Re-Rip 803 Frames]
CRC32: C25E5709

Track 4: Ripped LBA 60665 to 77520 (3:44) in 2:02. Filename: G:\My Music\Archive\Blu\Below the Heavens\Blu - 04 - Juicen' Dranks.IGNORE
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 2) [Pass 1, Re-Rip 648 Frames]
CRC32: 8C109667

Track 5: Ripped LBA 77520 to 95815 (4:03) in 2:07. Filename: G:\My Music\Archive\Blu\Below the Heavens\Blu - 05 - In Rememberance of Me.IGNORE
AccurateRip: Inaccurate (confidence 2) Secure (Warning) [Pass 1, Re-Rip 702 Frames]
CRC32: D39C939B

Track 6: Ripped LBA 95815 to 116132 (4:30) in 3:32. Filename: G:\My Music\Archive\Blu\Below the Heavens\Blu - 06 - Blu Colla Workers.IGNORE
AccurateRip: Inaccurate (confidence 2) Secure (Warning) [Pass 1, Re-Rip 1160 Frames]
CRC32: BD8922F0

Track 7: Ripped LBA 116132 to 136069 (4:25) in 2:42. Filename: G:\My Music\Archive\Blu\Below the Heavens\Blu - 07 - Dancing in the Rain.IGNORE
AccurateRip: Inaccurate (confidence 2) Secure (Warning) [Pass 1, Re-Rip 929 Frames]
CRC32: 1DD5615C

Track 8: Ripped LBA 136069 to 153334 (3:50) in 1:51. Filename: G:\My Music\Archive\Blu\Below the Heavens\Blu - 08 - First Things First.IGNORE
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 2) [Pass 1, Re-Rip 664 Frames]
CRC32: 05A1A412

Track 9: Ripped LBA 153334 to 172454 (4:14) in 2:01. Filename: G:\My Music\Archive\Blu\Below the Heavens\Blu - 09 - No Greater Love.IGNORE
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 2) [Pass 1, Re-Rip 735 Frames]
CRC32: C8AD8A59

Track 10: Ripped LBA 172454 to 196689 (5:23) in 2:31. Filename: G:\My Music\Archive\Blu\Below the Heavens\Blu - 10 - Show Me the Good Life.IGNORE
Secure (Warning) [Pass 1, Re-Rip 932 Frames]
CRC32: 28EA1567

Track 11: Ripped LBA 196689 to 212397 (3:29) in 1:36. Filename: G:\My Music\Archive\Blu\Below the Heavens\Blu - 11 - Simply Amazin'.IGNORE
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 2) [Pass 1, Re-Rip 604 Frames]
CRC32: 38D58A70

Track 12: Ripped LBA 212397 to 226803 (3:12) in 1:27. Filename: G:\My Music\Archive\Blu\Below the Heavens\Blu - 12 - Cold Hearted.IGNORE
AccurateRip: Inaccurate (confidence 2) Secure (Warning) [Pass 1, Re-Rip 555 Frames]
CRC32: C1EFC80E

Track 13: Ripped LBA 226803 to 246807 (4:26) in 1:59. Filename: G:\My Music\Archive\Blu\Below the Heavens\Blu - 13 - The World Is (Below the Heavens...).IGNORE
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 2) [Pass 1, Re-Rip 769 Frames]
CRC32: 2AA3B8E5

Track 14: Ripped LBA 246807 to 264015 (3:49) in 1:42. Filename: G:\My Music\Archive\Blu\Below the Heavens\Blu - 14 - You Are Now in the Clouds With (The Koochie Monstas).IGNORE
AccurateRip: Inaccurate (confidence 2) Secure (Warning) [Pass 1, Re-Rip 662 Frames]
CRC32: 768B3529

Track 15: Ripped LBA 264015 to 297424 (7:25) in 3:15. Filename: G:\My Music\Archive\Blu\Below the Heavens\Blu - 15 - [Untitled].IGNORE
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 2) [Pass 1, Re-Rip 1274 Frames]
CRC32: 37A838EE

Track 16: Ripped LBA 297424 to 310924 (3:00) in 0:47. Filename: G:\My Music\Archive\Blu\Below the Heavens\Blu - 16 - [Untitled].IGNORE
AccurateRip: Inaccurate (confidence 2) Secure (Warning) [Pass 1, Re-Rip 299 Frames]
CRC32: 3112C7FE

Track 17: Ripped LBA 310924 to 331624 (4:36) in 2:00. Filename: G:\My Music\Archive\Blu\Below the Heavens\Blu - 17 - [Untitled].IGNORE
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 2) [Pass 1, Re-Rip 792 Frames]
CRC32: 4C5B8CD2

--------------

17 Tracks Ripped: 9 Accurate, 8 Secure (Warning)

[inershun]

I would say your Samsung is not ripping correctly with c2 enabled (it sounds like it is getting a new offset whilst ripping, for most of the track to re-rip).

So there's no way around that then is there? Just a new drive I suppose?

[Spoon]

New drive.

[Porcus]

Sure it isn't a CD which is written with messed-up error codes? Not a "defective by design", but a "accidentally defective by design"? I had a couple of CDs (in a couple of thousand) which were almost unplayed, but where both my drives insisted on re-ripping two entire tracks in the middle.